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#1 kanec

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 14:30

http://www.simbin.com/forums/

I'm not sure what to think of this.

If the works good and of commercial quality from install through to licensing and then support then I don't think I have a problem paying. GTR2002 was certainly not that and it was most certainly a mod and therefore I would not have payed full price for it.

Lots of questions unanswered. What engine it will be based of? F1C? Do I need F1C to play it?

Time will tell I guess, but I have serious doubts that they can step up to a commercial level.

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#2 Enkei

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 16:15

They cannot sell add-ons for F1 Challenge 99-02, simply because EA/ISI won't allow it, which is good. I also think that I won't buy their products since a lot of other mods for F1 Challenge will be made.

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 17:16

They cannot sell add-ons for F1 Challenge 99-02, simply because EA/ISI won't allow it



Why not? How do you know this considering ISI are helping them with there mods.

#4 Dudley

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Posted 20 June 2003 - 15:19

I presme it would be a stand-alone mod that includes the game engine.

#5 mahelgel

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 00:56

Originally posted by Dudley
I presme it would be a stand-alone mod that includes the game engine.


That's what i was thinking too..

As for them going commercial... if they can produce a standalone install, with the quality that GTR2002 (or even better) then i don't really see it as a problem. However, the simracing community has allways been full of free mods, and i would guess that there will be some free alternative mods that will have a pretty high standard, and then why should people pay for the simbin release??

Whatever happens, i would welcome a proper GT racing game either as a free mod or, if the quality is there, as a proper release.

#6 A3

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Posted 31 March 2004 - 13:39

GTR: The Ultimate Racing Game

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http://www.m4driving...l_corkscrew.jpg

Listen to the Lister in-game: http://www.bhmotorsp...m/download/5371


What do you think?

#7 babbel

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Posted 31 March 2004 - 18:50

It looks pretty cool!

Is there any news on how it will be released?

#8 Exar Kun

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Posted 01 April 2004 - 02:00

Originally posted by babbel
It looks pretty cool!

Is there any news on how it will be released?


The time frame I heard a while ago pointed to around June/July but I haven't heard anything for quite some time. The version that has been shown to some people has been an alpha build so I wouldn't be thinking any earlier than winter (i'm in Australia) or even possibly spring.

Really looking forward to it though. :)

#9 A3

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 09:54

Demo:

(edit: I removed the link and password on request)

#10 Viktor

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 10:13

And what is the password for this demo? :)

As this demo is not on the site and requre a password I dont think this was ment for public release.

/Viktor

#11 A3

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 11:02

Sorry, I didn't know about the password. Should be

(edit: I removed the link and password on request)

#12 A3

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 11:36

BTW, how much Mb was the download?

#13 Viktor

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 11:47

145 Mb. First time I had a speed of 400 kb/sec now its down to 35 :(
Deleted it when I could not find a password :)

/Viktor

#14 A3

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 12:02

Oops ! :D

I hear it's very immersive. Can't wait ! Hope the link still works when I get home in a couple of hours.

#15 Viktor

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 13:00

After 5 laps :

It looks great and you can feel every bump in the road (and I dont even have a FF wheel!!) but where is the weight of the car? The car feels very light, maybe thats as in real life but thats not what I expected from a Lister Storm.

/Viktor

#16 StickShift

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 19:14

oh my god! :eek: This is ****ing fantastic!! :clap: does GPL finally have a successor?

Viktor, it's because you don't have a force feedback wheel. Get one and the car should feel perfect.

#17 A3

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 19:57

I was just about to say the same. The car feels extremely heavy with FF. And the sound ! I love it!

2:22 is my fastest time at the moment, this is hard !



Look how the right front locks up:
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I found out about the amazing detail after I careered off the track: :blush:
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Everything is modelled.

#18 StickShift

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 20:12

eh, I assume practically no-one knows about this leak? I haven't seen a single GTR forum mention it.

#19 Vilenova

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 20:23

What is the password?

Edit: Nevermind, just found it. :wave:

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#20 A3

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 20:26

Originally posted by StickShift
eh, I assume practically no-one knows about this leak? I haven't seen a single GTR forum mention it.


I just checked the forum where I got the link from and the link was removed there as it seemes to be leaked indeed.

#21 Vilenova

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 20:54

I guess I was a lucky one? hehe. I have a stupid question. How do you turn off the pit speed limiter. :blush:

#22 A3

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 21:52

The 'L' key.

#23 A3

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Posted 01 May 2004 - 21:26

2:15.736 :clap:

First time I'm fighting with a car and actually sweating from playing a sim !

#24 A3

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Posted 04 May 2004 - 10:00

SimBin decided to make the demo publicly available:

http://download.boom...iew.php?id=4999

#25 Gemini

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 08:39

Oh man, what a gem! I can't wait for a full thing.

I got late home last night but could not resist... 2.17,1xx on 4th lap. On soft tyres...

This sim is going to be an icon one day, just like GPL.

I can't wait to try it again tonight, more sober this time :drunk:

:up: :up: :up: to SimBin


The sound is unbelievable.!!!! :clap:

#26 polendo

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 17:08

2'19.xxx was my best time . Still too much ground to cover on a track like Spa.

#27 mahelgel

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Posted 05 May 2004 - 19:59

Originally posted by Gemini
The sound is unbelievable.!!!! :clap:


yeah.. the sound is amazing...just bloody fantastic to turn the stereo up while driving... great :up:

#28 StickShift

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 05:46

I'm doing 2:14's pretty consistently. a 2:14.115 shows up as my best. However, Judging by my best sector times, my ideal lap should be a 2:13.2xx .

#29 A3

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Posted 06 May 2004 - 12:39

Low 2:14s? How? Good work ! :up:

#30 Exar Kun

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 01:27

The aliens are well into the 2:09s now. Possibly lower as this was last weekend.

#31 Exar Kun

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Posted 17 May 2004 - 10:48

Anyone still doing some laps? I finally switched to soft tyres tonight, did a couple of laps and then a 2:12.3 popped up. :)

#32 Gemini

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Posted 17 May 2004 - 16:53

I am also in 2.12.xxxs. On mediums I do 2.14.xxx guite consistently...

There are some setups available here http://www.bhmotorsp.../downloads/2973

One guy claims he did 1.59.4 :eek: :lol:

Maybe we can do some laps in Morgan as well

I can't wait for this sim. I want some racing!!!

By the way can you tell me how to check tyre wear after longer run?

#33 Exar Kun

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Posted 17 May 2004 - 23:52

I don't know how to check the tyre wear. I haven't done much more than get in and drive so far.

My best on mediums is a 2:13.011 and I've done several laps in a row a few tenths off that so I should be alright for the longer runs in the game. I really hanging for it. Gonna have to buy me a new gfx card to be able to run it though!

:)

#34 SeanValen

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Posted 18 May 2004 - 17:32

Late downloading it, but picture got me interested again. Downloading now, comment soon. :smoking:

#35 SeanValen

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Posted 18 May 2004 - 18:57

Bizarre request, whats the button to deactive the PIT LIMITAR. I can't find it.

#36 MaxScelerate

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Posted 18 May 2004 - 23:57

Sean, default button is 'L' on your keyboard.

If you want to put it on the steering wheel or jystic or whatever, when in the controller setting screen, it's not very visible but there is a scrollbar beside the 'assign button' panel and some more options below. One of them, of course, is pit limiter... :)

#37 SeanValen

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Posted 19 May 2004 - 03:16

Originally posted by MaxScelerate
Sean, default button is 'L' on your keyboard.

If you want to put it on the steering wheel or jystic or whatever, when in the controller setting screen, it's not very visible but there is a scrollbar beside the 'assign button' panel and some more options below. One of them, of course, is pit limiter... :)



Thats it, I didn't notice the scroll bar, I found out earlier before reading your post, the way the info was presented, didn't make it look like there was anything to scoll down for, I was wrong.


Great demo though, the feel was realistic, the sounds of the engine, the up and down shifts, great stuff. :up:

#38 Gemini

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Posted 02 June 2004 - 09:46

here are some really exciting news about the progress of GTR development

if those guys achieve all they talk about, then..... :clap: :clap: :clap:

http://www.simbin.co.../trackIR_1.html
http://www.simbin.co...tr/track_1.html

especially second press release makes me :love:

#39 Nasty McBastard

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Posted 02 June 2004 - 23:37

just got the demo for this game and gave it a shot.

gotta say, when its released ill be buying the thing.

what i found nice (besides the actual game) was that it reckoned the minimum specs to run it was a 1.2 ghz processor..... the pc im on at the moment would only JUST scrape that in.. (athalon 1700+)... admittedly its only one car on the track, but barring a few jerky seconds actually driving out of the garage, it was pretty smooth.

by the time i get my new PC (hopefully a week or two), and by the time the game is released, ill be laughing.

loved the sound (the PROPER sound...can live without music) seemed to handle reasonably well.....could be a game i could actually get into.

the nascar series and GPL are still the only ones i play on any regular basis

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#40 Peter Perfect

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 14:12

http://www.simbin.com/games/

Just played the demo, and I've got to say it's looking (and handling) pretty sweet.

Anyone else had a go?

#41 Gemini

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Posted 02 August 2004 - 09:58

Get real :clap:


http://www.simbin.se...real_juni2.html


in other news..

http://www.simbin.se...uchut_juni.html

#42 Nasty McBastard

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 00:51

so whens the thing due out?

#43 Exar Kun

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 01:28

Late September is the current word dude. Still nothing on what availability will be like. I'm beginning to think that those of us in Oz will have to buy it over the net.

#44 Nasty McBastard

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 09:11

thatd be about typical.

in 99.9% of cases thatd be enough to make me think '**** it, im not THAT desperate'.....

but i think in this case ill make an exception.

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Posted 03 August 2004 - 09:45

I've been at the GTR tent in Spa, where we got an exclusive test-session, and some test time in the VIP tent. The game is really good.

What have we seen? Well, all the tracks are fully modelled (I didn't see all of them) in a wonderful color detail. We've seen all the cars are in the game, and we were able to play using the Saleen, Corvette and Ferrari. I drove the Saleen myself. It is amazingly real. If one wheel is still on the curb stones, don't push the gas pedal!

We've also seen the TrackIR at work. It is simply great! And we got to see the multiplayer working. The server showed the cars on a big screen, switching was easy. I was on the big screen next to me when I was driving.

We were unanimous afterwards, when we had a drink, that we were all going to buy this game.

However, Simbin didn't give us a release date yet (it has provisonally been set, though). For now, it is expected end September.

.ario.

#46 Gemini

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 08:22

Originally posted by mdecarle
I've been at the GTR tent in Spa, where we got an exclusive test-session, and some test time in the VIP tent. The game is really good.

What have we seen? Well, all the tracks are fully modelled (I didn't see all of them) in a wonderful color detail. We've seen all the cars are in the game, and we were able to play using the Saleen, Corvette and Ferrari. I drove the Saleen myself. It is amazingly real. If one wheel is still on the curb stones, don't push the gas pedal!

We've also seen the TrackIR at work. It is simply great! And we got to see the multiplayer working. The server showed the cars on a big screen, switching was easy. I was on the big screen next to me when I was driving.

We were unanimous afterwards, when we had a drink, that we were all going to buy this game.

However, Simbin didn't give us a release date yet (it has provisonally been set, though). For now, it is expected end September.

.ario.



as you driven newest version, can you please tell me one thing: how is a car under braking and downshifting - that's what I found a little unrealistic in available demo, you can down shift very quickly for engine braking without risk of loosing your rear wheels grip

#47 karlth

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Posted 04 August 2004 - 10:23

Great looking camcorder video of GTR in action:

http://forum.rscnet....ad.php?t=167818

Scroll down to: "Teaser by tobster" post #17.

#48 Gemini

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 10:22

amazing!

This sim launch is becoming for me (as someone once said about football) the most important thing of all unimportant things...

#49 mdecarle

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Posted 06 August 2004 - 21:22

Originally posted by Gemini



as you driven newest version, can you please tell me one thing: how is a car under braking and downshifting - that's what I found a little unrealistic in available demo, you can down shift very quickly for engine braking without risk of loosing your rear wheels grip


I haven't been able to do that in the newer version, but that could of course also be me ... .

Have you got "GForce simulation" switched on (it's a slider bar)? This little option has a vast impact on the ease of driving of the car. I imagin, when Henrik Roos is president of Simbin, the game must be correct in handling of the cars. There's a ton of video's and pictures, including a video of Henrik Roos driving GTR at Spa, at RaceSimCentral as well.

.ario.

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 09:15

... and in a single blow GTR KOs every other simulator out there:

Onboard in a Ferrari 360 at Estoril