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[Jimmy Piget]

I have gathered a lot of results for both these domestic races, but mainly as class results within races for bigger cars (formula Tasman et al).
I have a list of national champions, as below

1964 — Greg Cusack.
Rounds were perhaps Catalina Park 28 January ; Bathurst 30 March ; Calder April ; Calder 24 May ; Lowood 14 june ; & Warwick Farm 6 September.

1965 - Leo Geoghegan
1966 - John Harvey
1967 - Max stewart
1968 - Max Stewart & Garrie Cooper, tied (1600 cc ?)
1969 - Max Stewart (1600 cc ?)
1970 - Glyn (or Glynn ?) Scott
1971 - Henk Woelders
1972 - Larry Perkins

For all these years 1965 to 1972, I do not know what (where ? when ?) were the qualifying rounds for this championship.

I have the data for 1973 to 1976.

I have understood that ANF2 changed in 1978 to single-cam 1600 cc.
Were there a championship in 1978 ? Or just races ? But which ones ?

For 1979 to 1988, I only know the name of each year national champion :
1979 - Brian Shead
1980 - Richard Davison
1981 - John Smith
1982 - Lucio cesario
1983 - Ian Richards
1984 - Peter Glover
1985 - Peter Glover
1986 - Jonathan Crooke
1987 - Arthur Abrahams
1988 - Rohan Onslow

Which rounds (where, when, who won ?)

Then I have a complete blank for all the years from 1989 to 1995.
Did this formula still exist all these seasons ?

1996 - champion Bronte Rundle
Which rounds ?

1997 to 2000 : I know all the results, and for further years (international formula 3 adopted) too.

Last query : Before formula Pacific/Mondial was adopted as ANF1 for the Australian Gold Star (1981-1986), was there a specific championship for this formiula in 1979 & 1980 ?

Can one of our Aussie fellows teach me ?

[Falcadore]

Formula Pacific wasn't adopted for the Gold Star until 1982. The 1981 Gold Star was still for Formula 5000.

Formula 2 had a National Championship in 1981, although Formula Pacific, with its different engine regs, did not. The big Pacific series was in New Zealand.

[Allen Brown]

It changed from 1500cc to 1600cc about 1968 when Max Stewart won it in his new Rennmax BN2 (having used a BN1 the previous year). I think he won it the next year in the Mildren-Alfa, again a 1600cc Rennmax-built car. Glyn Scott used a Bowin P3, I think.

I have full 1971 Gold Star results from which you can derive the ANF2 winner.

Also, I have 1974 ANF2 results.

Ask me again in a year and I'll have more. This stuff takes time!

Allen

[Jimmy Piget]

Falcadore & Allen, thanks.

Australian Gold Star 1981

I have contradiction in my data :

1- formula 5000 — championship cancelled after 2 races
2- formula Pacific - champion Bruce Allison (8-race series)

Where am I wrong ?

[Allen Brown]

The first bit isn't wrong: two races Sandown Park 22 Feb and Amaroo Park 12 Jul.

Don't know about the second bit.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Jimmy Piget
Falcadore & Allen, thanks.

Australian Gold Star 1981

I have contradiction in my data :

1- formula 5000 — championship cancelled after 2 races
2- formula Pacific - champion Bruce Allison (8-race series)

Where am I wrong ?

The championship wasn't cancelled, but the one or two other races that were scheduled were.

Alf Costanzo took the title with the M26 McLaren.

I don't recall that FPacific 'championship'... will see if I can get a chance to look things up.

Now, onto more serious matters...

Originally posted by Jimmy Piget
1964 — Greg Cusack.
Rounds were perhaps Catalina Park 28 January ; Bathurst 30 March ; Calder April ; Calder 24 May ; Lowood 14 june ; & Warwick Farm 6 September.

1965 - Leo Geoghegan
1966 - John Harvey
1967 - Max stewart
1968 - Max Stewart & Garrie Cooper, tied (1600 cc ?)
1969 - Max Stewart (1600 cc ?)
1970 - Glyn (or Glynn ?) Scott
1971 - Henk Woelders
1972 - Larry Perkins

For all these years 1965 to 1972, I do not know what (where ? when ?) were the qualifying rounds for this championship.

Single race titles for 1964 and 1965, at Warwick Farm and Bathurst respectively, but Bib Stillwell won the Bathurst race. These are listed as '1.5 litre Championships' in the CAMS manual. The following three years it's a series.

Please note, Allen, the 1968 series resulted in a tie between Max Stewart and Garrie Cooper. 1969 would have been the first year of the 1.6-litre ANF2, as this is the last one listed as a 1.5 Championship.

Then there's the ANF2 Championship listing:

1964 - Lowood, Greg Cusack, Elfin Ford (1100cc)
1965 - Warwick Farm, Greg Cusack, Brabham Ford (1100cc)
1969 - Warwick Farm*, Max Stewart, Mildren Waggott (1600cc)
1970 - Lakeside, Max Stewart, Mildren Waggott (1600cc)
1977 - Sandown Park, Peter Larner, Elfin 700 t/c 926 (26 laps, 50.08 miles)

1971 to 1976 were series. Note that ANF2 was at some time (must have been 1971), restricted to 2 valves per cylinder, thus excluding the Waggott TC4V and Cosworth FVA/BDA engines (as used by Stewart in 1969 and 1970). I assume that the impending change to the formulae for the next year and a desertion by others to FAtlantic meant that there was less interest in the twin-cam F2 and so the '77 title went back to the single race through lack of interest.

1978 was the first year of the new 'single cam' F2, and for that year it wasn't permitted to have a National Championship as the 1300cc F3 that it grew from hadn't been allowed to do.

Pressure from entrants, I believe, led to the resumption of the title in 1979.

In later years, late 80s and some of the 90s, the F2 cars got the Gold Star. This would, I would think, mean they didn't have a separate ANF2 title?


Edit - * 1969... run in conjunction with the Hordern Trophy Race, final round of the Gold Star.

[Jimmy Piget]

Ray, thanks for untangling this for us.

[Ray Bell]

Jimmy... please note my edit... I had erroneously put 1969 down as 1500, but it was (obviously) for 1600s as mentioned elsewhere.

[SJ Lambert]

Is Rohan Onslow still in Australia?

Edit: - yep, Sydney, apparently.

Edited by SJ Lambert, 23 September 2017 - 10:56.

[TerryS]

I remember being at the Farm for the 1965 single race championship.

Leo Geoghegan crashed in Saturday practice and couldn't be repaired for Sunday.

So Greg Cusack had no real opposition and won as he pleased.

[Ray Bell]

I well recall that there was a lot of general disappointment about Leo crashing out of that event, Terry...

However, we were keen to see Greg win anyway, so not so much from our side.

Wasn't this, by the way, the only time Greg drove a Brabham in this class?

[Rob Miller]

It would have been interesting if a mini series had been organized in 1964/65 between the 1.5 liter cars and drivers from Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Rhodesia.