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#151 proviz

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 08:30

Richard Jenkins, on 09 Feb 2016 - 19:45, said:

I have it on WATN as Helmut but I have a photo on his page taken by Paul Kooyman in his driver suit in 1974. https://goo.gl/photo...3ixJYNh5rUUiof7 not sure if the link will work but his driver suit says..... Helmuth! Surely he would've said something if it was wrong?

 

One should always have reservations about the spelling of a driver's name on his overalls, particularly if they came with the drive in a foreign team. Some Finnish rally co-drivers, for example, have been less than impressed by the overalls presented to them.



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#152 Michael Ferner

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 09:12

As a former student of German L&L I may be able to shed some light on this. It is indeed true that the penultimate reform of the German orthography around the beginning of the 20th century rendered the German "th" obsolete, to be replaced by a simple "t". Of course, this applied not necessarily to names, and old habits die hard, which would explain why his name could actually have been Helmuth instead of the more modern form Helmut. From there, it may have been a personal preference to use the "h" or not, signifying either tradition or modernism.

I can understand the importance of getting the spelling right, particularly since I'm in the lengthy (and tedious) process of "cleaning" my data bases to make them unambiguous for a computer program - e.g. Jim Clark should always be refered to under this one name, not Jimmy or Jimmie Clark, yet the programme needs to be able to understand that the (hypothetical) Jim Clark who races Midgets in Southern Iowa is not the same person - but there is no difference between the names Helmut and Helmuth from a linguistic (or social) perspective. Names do change over time, the same as language. Heck, I have a relative doing genealogy in the 17th and 18th century, and the changes in spelling are simply mind-boggling; this here is just kid's stuff.

Long post short, there will be no simple answer. Maybe his birth certificate shows a different spelling from his death certificate, which one are you going to chose? Personal preference prevails.

#153 GMiranda

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 23:18

It seems there are a lot of posts about Helmut Koinigg - http://www.motorraci...ns-at-the-glen/



#154 Tim Murray

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 23:33

The separate threads about Helmut Koinigg have now been merged.

#155 E1pix

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 00:25

That's a tough article to write, Guilherme, and I recall the incident from that time all too well.

 

A best friend's Dad was a marshal at either that turn, or a neighboring one. I was 14 then, and it was a black day for US racing being that it happened here.


Edited by E1pix, 25 January 2018 - 00:26.


#156 ensign14

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 08:08

Having reached a non-conclusion on the second h in Helmuth...

 

...Koinigg?  Is that a dialect form of Koenig?



#157 GMiranda

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Posted 25 January 2018 - 13:15

Hello

 

That's good every Koinigg thread is merged, so it's easy to read all info about him. May you assure me how is name his correctly spelled, please?



#158 GMiranda

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Posted 25 August 2018 - 17:30

Hello

 

This is, definitively, the last version of my Helmut Koinigg's work. Thanks for all your help!!!!!!!!!

http://www.motorraci...ns-at-the-glen/



#159 ensign14

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Posted 06 November 2022 - 23:57

From the "I never expected to see a reference to Helmuth Koinigg there" department, I've just watched a documentary about Leonard Rossiter.  It mentioned how his Cinzano adverts were the drinks co's response to the Martini ads.

 

And cue a Martini ad focussing on their steroided 911s - one of whose drivers was sporting a black helmet with a row of hearts...

 

ETA: here it is - someone got the decade wrong when describing it...

 

https://youtu.be/zeXAlwleUb0?t=14


Edited by ensign14, 07 November 2022 - 00:02.


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#160 GMiranda

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Posted 20 August 2023 - 16:41

https://realmofmotor...-glen.html?lr=1 - I finally posted Koinigg's article on the new website.