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#1 SeanValen

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 19:01

What times you have people gotten at Spa?

I've done a 1:44.7

Kanec has done a 1:44.0


I wonder if Enkei and G Doering, A3 are push the evelope and go beyond the limit once again, as I've seen from the past from you people.


How about some of you trying to get online and do some practice sessions, nothing serious, just testing and having a laugh, so quali and a exhibition type race, no points or nothing.

If you do race online or practice doing times, I mean just testing and stuff at Spa, we always use this server to create the game:

SERVER: ATLAS F1

Password: SLOWPOKE



even if your practicing, create the server anyway, you never know some of us might come in.

Different time zones and stuff, so see what happens.


AIM OF OUR ONLINE SESSIONS: Fun, nothing serious, help each other our in improving lap times, so we get pretty close for some races.

Driver aids: traction control-you need it at least low, otherwise it's too hard isn't it, gear shift assistence, pit assistence, clutch assistence, spin recovery-just to save time in races, spins costly and traction control on means, it's harder to turn the car

No other aids, especially stability assistence, this is a evil assistence I used in the past, and made it too easy, the 2004 update has more gripier cars, so it's already more easier in way.

Keyboard players: NO I've played with keyboard players, it just doesn't work with wheels, very hard to race against, and not fair for the drivers working with wheels. There's no stability assistence aid were using, and it's not really fair for drivers who've put effort into getting fast without it.



Thats it.



Spa times, get those Spa times in.


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#2 GDoering

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 19:26

Hey Sean. Actually I just downloaded the new update last night but didn't run any competitive laps. I'll run some laps tonight and let you know. The new update looks nice. The cars are easier to drive than the 2002/2003 cars but I guess that makes sense.

#3 EvilPhil

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 19:34

1:42.3 in the williams, but then Spa is my second fav track :blush:

#4 AcuraF1

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 19:55

1:46:58 :blush: in Villeneuve's, oops I mean Sato's BAR.

#5 Mox

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 20:05

Can I just suggest that we all at least take advantage of the small adjustments you can make to F1C in order to increase the realism from arcade towards sim-racing?

Such as setting

Steering Help="0"
Steering Help Functionality="0"

Half Rate="0"
Tire Sampling="1"

It will take a bit more hits on the CPU, but it WILL also make the game better.

#6 GDoering

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 20:14

Originally posted by Mox
Can I just suggest that we all at least take advantage of the small adjustments you can make to F1C in order to increase the realism from arcade towards sim-racing?

Such as setting

Steering Help="0"
Steering Help Functionality="0"

Half Rate="0"
Tire Sampling="1"

It will take a bit more hits on the CPU, but it WILL also make the game better.

I agree Mox. I say drop all aids except TC and clutch also. Go as realistic as possible, it makes the game a lot more fun.

#7 SeanValen

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 21:07




Originally posted by Mox
Can I just suggest that we all at least take advantage of the small adjustments you can make to F1C in order to increase the realism from arcade towards sim-racing?

Such as setting

Steering Help="0"
Steering Help Functionality="0"

Half Rate="0"
Tire Sampling="1"

It will take a bit more hits on the CPU, but it WILL also make the game better.







We just must remind everyone of updating to it now.



C:Program FilesEA SPORTSF1 Challenge 99-02Save

It can be found here everything, click on your player name, then look for the PDF FILE, notepad etc, then change the settings Mox has told you too.


Tyre Wear and stuff, well since were not doing full races, I'm setting to X2, normal tyre wear might not be enough for shorter races like 8 races etc, I've doing some testing tonight, kanec's server, atlas f1, password: slowpoke.

TYRE WEAR: X2

In the options.


Let us all use X2 for the tyre wear.







Everyone doing this, if not, not much point comparing times.

CONFIRM YOU LOT HAVE DONE THIS








#8 SeanValen

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 21:55

if anyone is online right now, there's a server up:
atlas f1
password: slowpoke


Had the race, Kanec won. But pretty close, my race ended at Eau Rouge, crash while trying to maintain a line without scraping Kanec's car. Massive crash, JV like.

Got a picture screen, I hit the tyre wall, then flipped over to the overside of the track.

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#9 StickShift

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 16:53

I'm ready to embarrass myself. Anyone else up for a run around spa?

#10 Enkei

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 16:59

I can play now, my pb at spa is 1:42 in a BAR :)

#11 StickShift

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 17:03

I'd offer to put up the server, but I doubt a North American server would host Europeans that well... :

#12 Enkei

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 17:12

Originally posted by StickShift
I'd offer to put up the server, but I doubt a North American server would host Europeans that well... :


We can try..

#13 Enkei

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 17:29

Server is online now :)

#14 SeanValen

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 17:58

I'm gonna go in now.

#15 John Pickett

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 18:48

anyone know how you get this working with the nocd exe file?

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 19:26

Originally posted by GDoering
Hey Sean. Actually I just downloaded the new update last night but didn't run any competitive laps. I'll run some laps tonight and let you know. The new update looks nice. The cars are easier to drive than the 2002/2003 cars but I guess that makes sense.


I'm confused. What update?

#17 GDoering

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 20:01

This one:

http://forums.atlasf...&threadid=72264

#18 ScottL

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 20:05

Right! I forgot to take a look at this. Thanks!

#19 McLarenFormula1

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 20:17

Are you hosting races through Gamespy on F1C or through F1RST? I suggest F1RST, it'll make thing a lot easier for everyone.

BTW, I'm running in the '45's. I'll give you a more accurate time later tonight.

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#20 SeanValen

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 20:20

Originally posted by McLarenFormula1
Are you hosting races through Gamespy on F1C or through F1RST? I suggest F1RST, it'll make thing a lot easier for everyone.

BTW, I'm running in the '45's. I'll give you a more accurate time later tonight.


Gamespy.

Is F1RST suppose to be better.

#21 McLarenFormula1

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 20:56

F1RST is a great tool for hosting and joining races. It supports pretty much all the mods for F1C and races are very easy to find. You can also set restrictions on aids, ect. or enforce physics so all cars are on equal grounds. Check it out at http://www.f1rst-2.com/

#22 RX-7

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Posted 28 August 2004 - 21:27

Could someone "walk me through" the process of getting started ,so I might join you fellas? I love F12002 on the PS2!

#23 Enkei

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:19

Originally posted by RX-7
Could someone "walk me through" the process of getting started ,so I might join you fellas? I love F12002 on the PS2!


Install F1Challenge 99-02 on your pc, go to www.emacf1.com and download the 2004 season. Make yourself a profile in the game, and you're done. Go to Multiplayer for online games :)

#24 kanec

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:25

Originally posted by Enkei


Install F1Challenge 99-02 on your pc, go to www.emacf1.com and download the 2004 season. Make yourself a profile in the game, and you're done. Go to Multiplayer for online games :)


Yeah the updates are really well done. No need for copying files or anything as the installer does all the work for you.

#25 Viktor

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:58

Best time on Spa: 1:45.743 - Auto shift, TC, Clutch

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#26 Jaguar2002

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:58

Does F1C 99-02 have more servers and players than F12002?

#27 Amrl

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 11:09

1:42.5 in a McLaren, TC only

#28 ScottL

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 18:53

Wow! Just loaded the update. After driving all last week at Spa with the 2002 car, the new car seems glued to the track -- a bit skittery coming out of low speed corners. Is this due to the default setup or have the physics of the car changed somewhat?

Anyway, great stuff. Best I could manage at Spa in 5 laps was 1:54.025 in the McLaren (default RH2004 Belgium setup, all aids off except TC). I've got some work to do to match you diehards.

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#29 StickShift

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 20:21

anyone around want to put in a few laps?

edit: server up

Atlas F1
pw: slowpoke

#30 ScottL

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 23:14

Must've missed it.... Argh.

I'm serving Spa on F1RST now. First practice started 00:12 GMT (19:12 EDT).

#31 A3

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 21:02

1:44.620 after a couple of laps at Spa.

#32 StickShift

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 21:24

I can't tell you my absolute best lap. But I've been working with low 1:43's in the BAR.

kanec, SV, I saw that PK guy sent you an e-mail with his setup the other day. Would one of you guys mind e-mailing it to me at some point? (I'll PM you my e-mail)

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 21:33

Originally posted by StickShift
I can't tell you my absolute best lap. But I've been working with low 1:43's in the BAR.

kanec, SV, I saw that PK guy sent you an e-mail with his setup the other day. Would one of you guys mind e-mailing it to me at some point? (I'll PM you my e-mail)


sure mate. PM me.

#34 StickShift

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 21:50

thanks kanec :up:

#35 A3

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 21:51

Down to 1:43.821.

#36 SeanValen

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 22:55

Originally posted by StickShift
I can't tell you my absolute best lap. But I've been working with low 1:43's in the BAR.

kanec, SV, I saw that PK guy sent you an e-mail with his setup the other day. Would one of you guys mind e-mailing it to me at some point? (I'll PM you my e-mail)


I haven't gotten the magic out of that set up yet, I think Greg Doerig said it best, a set up is suited to some type of drivers style, whatever PK is doing, it might just suit him better then me.

Remember it is a set up for one lap quali, and there was no fuel on on his sever, high cambers, that set up wouldn't last long in a race.

And I think about the race more, testing compounds out and stuff, high fuel loads, I go out on fridays, kick ass, and come back in, with good data for the race. :smoking: :D

Saying that though, PK was insanley fast, Enkei got fed up and left, as for benchmarks, still look to Greg Doerig to be stronger in the race and quali, PK has alot to prove in his career still, maybe he's a trulli, quali specialist, we should not fear him, I bow to no man. :smoking: But he was cool in giving us his set up, good stuff. :up: Don't underestimate Enkei, he's Kimi's twin, he'll be back, I heard rumours he's been doing testing non stop since, he's a threat to us.

Expect more talk in the press conference tomorrow, order of appearance:

A3
Frank Williams
Kanec
Scott L

On Thursday:
StickShift
Ron Dennis
Greg Doerig

More to be confirmed.

#37 GDoering

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 00:57

Originally posted by SeanValen


I haven't gotten the magic out of that set up yet, I think Greg Doerig said it best, a set up is suited to some type of drivers style, whatever PK is doing, it might just suit him better then me.

Remember it is a set up for one lap quali, and there was no fuel on on his sever, high cambers, that set up wouldn't last long in a race.

PK was awfully quick. I haven't run at Spa much with the new mod but the best I could do was a 1:41.1. He was in the 1:40's and seemed to be upset he wasn't closer to the 1:39's. The cars in the new mod do have enormous amounts of grip, almost videogame-like, and it seems you can just keep pushing without going off. Not sure I like the cars being so easy to drive but maybe after getting closer to the limit it will become more enjoyable.

BTW - what were PK's camber settings on his setup?

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 06:59

Originally posted by GDoering
and it seems you can just keep pushing without going off. Not sure I like the cars being so easy to drive


I agree it's getting too easy, especially with full TC.

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 07:41

Originally posted by A3


I agree it's getting too easy, especially with full TC.


Low TC is still fun but this mod does give an awful lot of grip overall. I'm thinking around 4-5 seconds around Spa from 2003 to the 2004 mod.

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 08:04

Originally posted by GDoering
PK was awfully quick. I haven't run at Spa much with the new mod but the best I could do was a 1:41.1. He was in the 1:40's and seemed to be upset he wasn't closer to the 1:39's. The cars in the new mod do have enormous amounts of grip, almost videogame-like, and it seems you can just keep pushing without going off. Not sure I like the cars being so easy to drive but maybe after getting closer to the limit it will become more enjoyable.

BTW - what were PK's camber settings on his setup?


From memory it was -3.1 all around.

#41 kodandaram

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:58

umm.........I missed this thread for SPA !!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

You guys workign on Monza yet ? .....................I better do some shakedowns ........some of the times are FAST ! :evil:

#42 RacerMAD

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 11:26

lets make a championship for the 4 last races. and just "race mode" for each race.

get 20 player fastest who will be join for championship.
and race mode for free

#43 Amrl

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:14

Took half a second off my Spa time and did a 1:21.7 in Monza on my third lap (McLaren)

The cars sure are a lot more stable now, even with the oversteery setups I like the rear is rather easy to control.

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:20

I've reached the 1:40's yesterday. I don't have a clue how PK manages to do 1:39 since I think there's not much more to improve with my setup and my lap. I think 1:40:9 is the limit for me, driving Ferrari.hdv and engine.ini.

#45 Enkei

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:21

Is there a Monza game on tonight?

#46 kodandaram

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:30

Eneki - r u going online on that server tonite - to do some laps at Monza ? wouldn't mind catching up and pick up a few pointers ....;)

Besides - vacation time is boring ......... :rolleyes:


anyone else going online tonite for that server ? Well I will go online at say .....hmm......1800 GMT ....anyone interested ???? c'mon guys join in and give me some tips .... I really struggle at Monza . :(

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 13:01

Originally posted by kodandaram
anyone else going online tonite for that server ? Well I will go online at say .....hmm......1800 GMT ....anyone interested ???? c'mon guys join in and give me some tips .... I really struggle at Monza . :(


You and me both. Arse of a track.

#48 A3

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 13:04

I hope I can join tonight, not sure though. I also downgraded my internet connection, I wonder if it's still good for online play.

#49 Jaguar2002

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 14:37

I hope to be there too, but my wheel is broken abit. :mad:
I thought I fixed it yesterday but it's still not working properly.

#50 Enkei

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Posted 31 August 2004 - 14:46

I think I'll be there. PB is 1:20:604 after some 20 laps, still some tenths to gain on current setup.