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[Guido Gofasta]

RSC has the story on their frontpage.

Geisha girls AND grid dragons! Now thats what I call a sim.

[tbones]

Since they mention SCEE, does that mean that SCEAmerica won't have it, and we will not get another game over here that we should :

[Arrows4Ever]

Originally posted by tbones
Since they mention SCEE, does that mean that SCEAmerica won't have it, and we will not get another game over here that we should :

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guido Gofasta]

Aren't you guys over reacting just a little? SONY did not buy the world-wide exclusive rights to F1 only to profit from it in one market.

[Ricardo F1]

Originally posted by tbones
Since they mention SCEE, does that mean that SCEAmerica won't have it, and we will not get another game over here that we should :

SCEE is merely Sony Computer Entertainments European opearation who are in charge of the development and licensing, SCEA have every right to launch it in the US. Whether they will or not is up to them . . hopefully at $19.99!

[Jodum5]

ASFAIK they never released F1 04 in the us. but we'll see

[mart]

Originally posted by Ricardo F1
. . hopefully at $19.99!

lol...it's worth way more than that!

[babbel]

When can we expect some more info and screenshots?

[WACKO]

http://www.gamespot....creenindex.html

5 screen shots of the game. It's not much, but still early days...

[themark]

http://www.watch.imp...0512/psp143.htm

This shot is from an early development forum news link. No details other than this is one of the many games in development. At least this shot has actual cars in it. Sauber, Jag and what is obviously the walrus from Williams. Looks like a grey and cloudy day.

Those other screen shots aren't very enticing. Geisha girls? Who cares? :

[themark]

Even better Screenshots here. From the Playstation UK website. Dated Dec 10/2004

http://uk.playstatio...WS&linktype=SSL

It'll probably be bluetooth link-playable

[babbel]

Those are PSP shots though and not PS2 shots

[mart]

Not only are those PSP shots, they are very old ones.

[Guido Gofasta]

Originally posted by themark
Geisha girls? Who cares? :

But the silk fabric physics are second to none!

[polendo]

Was that a 197x lotus on the PSP screen? I think I'm going to buy the PSP.. looking good.

[themark]

Originally posted by mart
Not only are those PSP shots, they are very old ones.

Find newer ones then

You would think that there would be more information available on the development of the game than is currently available. You have to admit that the current screenshots are pretty lame.

[themark]

As posted in another (now locked) thread:

http://media.psp.ign...956/imgs_1.html

Looking good. Check out the videos too.

[DOHCPower]

I'd love to check out the videos but it says you have to pay to sign up. Does anyone have them already downloaded that can host them?

[Arrows4Ever]

Dude! What's wrong?

You don't have to pay... Just follow the links correctly...

[01ferrari-fan]

we are trying to get F1 '05 here in the US / Canada.

SCEA claims that Studio Liverpool {the developer} decides which country gets the Sim.

Japan will get their NTSC version probably in september, as they did last year woth F1 '04, but that was not announced when F1 '04 PAL / Europe was announced.

we are in communication with Sony / SCEE / Studio Liverpool / SCEA to see who actually decides where the Sim is sold, and what we can do to get it here.

we are asking for the ability to buy the NTSC Japan version with English text, as it will already be 100% English commentary + alread is 85% English text now. we are suggesting that all they need to do is sell it @ their online store, no need for marketing / advertising if they don't want to.

check out our petition {below} thx

[mart]

Originally posted by 01ferrari-fan
SCEA claims that Studio Liverpool {the developer} decides which country gets the Sim.

Dean please don't do this kind of stuff on this forum - if you want to make a claim, back it up with something other than your say so.

That's a publisher's job, not a development team.

Ricardo?

[01ferrari-fan]

i said "SCEA claims ..."

not sure i believe them, but would you like me to forward you the email letter from Frank @ SCEA stating so ?

[01ferrari-fan]

Originally posted by mart


What's your source for the 05 release date?

edited out link, as it's not permitted

[mart]

Originally posted by 01ferrari-fan
i said "SCEA claims ..."

not sure i believe them, but would you like me to forward you the email letter from Frank @ SCEA stating so ?

Post it on here - and what does 'Frank' do?

...F1gamers isn't exactly an official source is it - the words 'salt' & 'pinch' spring to mind.

[01ferrari-fan]

actually, Frank mailed me a letter. i can scan it for you, will you accept that ?

[mart]

would you like me to forward you the email letter

...but by all means, please - scan it - I'm still interested as to what Franks position there is.

Forgive my obvious distrust but you are new here, although some of us do you know you from...shall we call it, a previous life and you're making some pretty unsubstantiated claims.

[01ferrari-fan]

no, i'm not new here, since 2002 i've been registered, but i posted here rarely.



I'm not sure i believe Frank, clearly he has no idea that SCEE / Studio Liverpool develops F1 series, but his claim about a game's producer deciding which countries release it is what i was concerned about. but we are gonna ask SL DIRECTLY who makes this decision + BEG for a US release of the NTSC version that Japan will get {only needs abot 15% more english text in menu + 100% english text in Career mode --though i don't play career mode -- all commentary is already in english}

needless to say, i replied to Frank + told him SL / SCEE develops F1, and he never replied

[01ferrari-fan]

2 things:

if a developer does not produce an NTSC version {therefore no US Release}, can Sony FORCE them to ?

and, wouldn't you think since SONY owns SCEE which owns Studio Liverpool, who develops the game, wouldn't it ultimately be SONY's decision ??



well, we are gonna try + find out for sure + try our best !!!

[mart]

OK, ignoring that it looks like the sony logo was pasted into the pic & that my kid bro could have come up with that address if left alone with altavista, that was in answer to what?

[01ferrari-fan]

Originally posted by mart
OK, ignoring that it looks like the sony logo was pasted into the pic & that my kid bro could have come up with that address if left alone with altavista, that was in answer to what?

i'm almost beginning to think you are just having a go @ me.


this was in response to my request that 989 Sports / SCEA release F1 '04 in the US / Canada, because i feel that the future of this Sim will be enhanced by a much better Online Mode, and we'll need "legal" versions to get online + pass DNAS.

i was asking them to release it here in the US, and he claimed that it is the developers call on which countries get a version

[mart]

I don't think they understood which game you were asking about as they seem to think you meant the EA series.

[01ferrari-fan]

and that isn't my point.


regardless of the title he had in mind, he said " the producer has total control as to where it is sold worldwide"

that would mean EA / Studio Liverpool / whoever produces a title has total control as to where it is sold worldwide, in Frank's opinion.

i questioned that, and am gonna ask SL directly.

[mart]

You've missed my point.

SCEA are a publisher as well as developer so if they want to pick up titles by other developers, that is their choice.

[01ferrari-fan]

Originally posted by mart
You've missed my point.

SCEA are a publisher as well as developer so if they want to pick up titles by other developers, that is their choice.

i didn't miss that point, i simply never addressed it, as it doesn't have anything to do with my statement of:

Originally posted by 01ferrari-fan
EA / Studio Liverpool / whoever produces a title has total control as to where it is sold worldwide, in Frank's opinion

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bottom line:

1. we want F1 '05 in the US / Canada
2. SCEE / SL develop / produce / make F1 '05
3. Frank implied that SCEA / 989 Sports {USA } do not decide if they can carry the F1 series in US / Canada
4. we are gonna ask SCEE / SL who does decide this + ask for a US release

[Mr M0by]

Well I get the Online Beta of this, this week. I'll be sure to tell you how it plays.;) You certainly didn't miss anything with last years version.

[mart]

Originally posted by 01ferrari-fan i didn't miss that point, i simply never addressed it, as it doesn't have anything to do with my statement of:

You have missed the point...by a mile it would seem!

Frank’s opinion of what you asked him suggests to me that he thinks you were asking about the EA series. If it was clear to Frank that you meant the SCEE game, I am sure that he (in his position of VP S&M) would know that the choice as to whether or not they publish a SCEE title was SCEA's decision.

[01ferrari-fan]

well, you might be correct, but i have finally found out who IS the appropriate contact @ SCEE to ask about an NTSC UC {Usa / Canada} release !!

i've been informed as of today, that he'll contact me regarding the issue !!

[mart]

you go boy!

[01ferrari-fan]

i checked out the owner's manual from Formula One 2001, released in the US by '989 Sports':

although SCEA is on the inside front cover [as with all US titles], if you look in the credits at the back it lists:

Sony Computer Entertainment Studio Liverpool first

below the names of the SL folks, you'll see:

Sony Computer Entertainment America, Production

it would seem S/L + SCEE are in charge, but stay tuned

[mart]

Originally posted by 01ferrari-fan
i checked out the owner's manual from Formula One 2001, released in the US by '989 Sports':

although SCEA is on the inside front cover [as with all US titles], if you look in the credits at the back it lists:

Sony Computer Entertainment Studio Liverpool first

below the names of the SL folks, you'll see:

Sony Computer Entertainment America, Production

it would seem S/L + SCEE are in charge, but stay tuned

What is a credit list order supposed to show?

...you should check out what 989 actually is...

[01ferrari-fan]

on all of the manuals, the SCEE / SL info appears first, which means they seem to be the "highest up" on the production of the F1 series, Japan NTSC version included.

i am getting the impression that SCEE / SL decides which countries get the sim, although if a SONY exec. higher up wants SCEE / SL to make an NTSC UC version, i believe that they could be "forced to"

[mart]

lol...why is it you can't accept others might just be right and you could be wrong?

[01ferrari-fan]

Originally posted by mart
lol...why is it you can't accept others might just be right and you could be wrong?

right about what ?

[mart]

Originally posted by 01ferrari-fan right about what ?

erm...the whole question of who decides "to publish or not to publish"

[babbel]

While I must admit that I've followed the whole discussion with some laughter I think enough is enough now.

Please 01ferrari-fan (and the other version whoever you are) stop bothering us with your quest and the harrasment of other people on the forum. You are free to post about other subjects but please let this go.

[Mr M0by]

Back on topic.... The Online Beta Disc arrived yesterday but i don't think i'm allowed to say anything on it. Doh. But anyhoo.... after some intitial disappoining impressions it grew on me. Only 2 tracks to play with, Melbourne & Sepang, but it allows for 10 cars on track, actually racing this time as opposed to last years 'ghosting'. Minimal lag but pile-ups galore, which isn't actually a fault with the game design just the fact that i was often racing against people that had a 'Destruction Derby / Burnout 3' mentality. Will play some more later.

[01ferrari-fan]

yes, back on topic of F1 '05 in general :

GREAT NEWS !!! :

having the ability to "race" each other online, is the biggest reason to get a "legal" version in the US / Canada, since you cannot get online with a "modded" PS2, you need a "legal" / "un-modded" PS2 and a version of F1 '05 made for your country !!

[Mr M0by]

Okay then some info of the game and in reply to an email sent to me...

is the handling any different ? heavier ?

I don't recall what the handling was like previously tbh, i remember not being impressed anyway. The handling for F1 2005 isn't 'heavy' at all, feels quite light infact and very arcade like.... but enjoyable though.

what about the "tear-offs", do they get removed when you are turning ?

No tear offs in the game, at least not in multiplayer/online mode.

working mirrors in Helmet View ?

Nope. Again there may be more features in offline mode, which is what seems to have been hinted about the online beta.

flag marshals still there ?

They are but I've never personally slowed down at the sight of a yellow flag and i've not been punished for ignoring them. Might have even overtaken 'under one'.

All in all the impressions i have of the game thus far are that it is completely arcade orientated. That said i've enjoyed the game anyway... nb i've won a fair amount of races, so that helps a little! Minimal lag so far aswell, so all in all i'll most likely end up buying this - if there is some form of recorded online championship then i definetly will.

[01ferrari-fan]

F1 '05 Set to debut this week @ the e3 Expo in Los Angeles.


one of us are going to meet with SCEE + ask a few questions / perhaps test it out .....

some questions asked will be:

1. Will the people in LA be able to go into a store in LA + buy the game, or will we need to go out and buy a ModChip ?, and be deprived of the new online mode ?
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2. Will we be able to drive the formation lap, the slow down lap, drive in the pits our selves, and will we see the safety car?
3. Will "tear-offs" be removed just when we enter turns ?
4. Will we be able to see our mirrors in the cockpit view?
5. What Historic Cars/Tracks are included?
6. Will there be accurate 2005 performance?
7. When is the release in Australia?
8. Will the Logi GT4 wheel be supported fully ?


35 questions will be asked of SONY, i'll keep you posted.

as of now there is NO indication either way of a possible US / Canada release.

fingers crossed, tho

[mart]

...and the other 27 questions are?

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