Does anyone else participate in the monthly 8W Game? I find it really fascinating to do the research and put the information together even when I get clobbered! My 1980's knowledge isn't that great after about 1982 or so and really lacking after Keke retired.
It is great the way they have it now. You can participate in five different "classes:"
pre-war; 1950's; 1960's; 1970's; and, 1980's. Plus there is the Trintignant Trophy for best combined score in the pre-war, 1950's & 1960's categories; and the McLaren Cup for the 1960's, 1970's & 1980's.
Even if you just do one category it is fun.
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The 8W game
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 09:40
Don I was actually shocked that I figured out one of the current game's eighties cars, but was so totaly clueless as to the other I gave up my search, I see you do quite well there. It was a great hour and a half of research though, amazing what you can learn.
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 09:46
Yeah, but last time on the DAY the entry was due, I decided to try the 70's & '80's - Boy! Did I get my head beat in! And worse of all, I actually recognized the one on Ricardo Londono! Notice that I stick to what I know...
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 10:03
Don, I am going to participate this month (November.) only in the 1970s and the 1980s parts because those are the only two eras that I know a bit of.
This month, I got both the 70s photos and one of the 80s. The Theodore in the rain seems to be a toughie for me.
This month, I got both the 70s photos and one of the 80s. The Theodore in the rain seems to be a toughie for me.
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 12:16
Chief, my lips are sealed...
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 14:40
ok, you had me intrigued, and as I never played that game, I decided to have a go. I started with the 80's - one I am 100% sure I have right, the other I am 80% sure. Both 70's I had no problem with. Went on to the 60's, had one 100% sure right, and then got stuck on the second 60's picture for so long, I decided to give up for the night 
I wish I never started it, though. I have so much work to do, and instead of doing it I got caught up in this. Evil Don, evil!
I wish I never started it, though. I have so much work to do, and instead of doing it I got caught up in this. Evil Don, evil!
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 15:39
Come on, Don.
Give me a clue. Here is what I have deduced so far.
It is obviously from the ground efffects era which means that the photo is probably from 1982.
In 1982, Theodore used four or five drivers.
So, I can't even figure out the driver, let alone the circuit.
Don, give me a tiny clue. Pleeeeeease.
Give me a clue. Here is what I have deduced so far.
It is obviously from the ground efffects era which means that the photo is probably from 1982.
In 1982, Theodore used four or five drivers.
So, I can't even figure out the driver, let alone the circuit.
Don, give me a tiny clue. Pleeeeeease.
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 22:28
I try to get in once in a while. The only thing that keeps me from doing it all the time is that my last 2 (sporadic) visits, they stumped me 
Ah'ell, maybe next time...
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Posted 13 November 1999 - 22:48
Be Advised: 8W can be addictive! In fact, that is what I am spending my time doing right now. Unfortunately for both the 8W staff and myself, I tend to write long, detailed (occasionally rambling) answers. I go for the max. However, despite my best effort to steer away from the 80's & '70's, I realize that I know that driver and that car and even THAT picture...
However, it is great fun...and I always find it worthwhile!!!!
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However, it is great fun...and I always find it worthwhile!!!!
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 05:11
The '70s was a piece of cake. I'm still stuck on a pic from the 50's and the pre-war. But, since I don't have the time or energy to write them the long articles, I do it for myself.
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 11:00
O.K., at the risk of sounding like an idiot... what's the 8W Game? Am I missing something?
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 11:35
Davy,
try going to http://www.racer.demon.nl/8w/home.html
Don
PS: How anybody who knows about the Mojo Wire (actually first mentioned in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas BTW ) could not know about 8W is beyond me. Be forewarned that it can be addictive. I looked at it for seveal months before I tried it and it gets under your skin...
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try going to http://www.racer.demon.nl/8w/home.html
Don
PS: How anybody who knows about the Mojo Wire (actually first mentioned in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas BTW
) could not know about 8W is beyond me. Be forewarned that it can be addictive. I looked at it for seveal months before I tried it and it gets under your skin...------------------
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 11:57
Don are you finished with the '80s and '70s?
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 12:39
Actually, I have written a chunk on all 10 and just sitting down to add more and more data in my usual misguided efforts towards overkill.
Actually the 70's & 80's are easier than usual, even I had an idea with 10 or 15 minutes (which means I have probably missed one...)
Need help?
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Actually the 70's & 80's are easier than usual, even I had an idea with 10 or 15 minutes (which means I have probably missed one...)
Need help?
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 12:55
help? well, I hope not! heh.
Since I am not going to participate in the game, though, I e-mailed you my replies, just to get a feel of how well or bad I did.
Anyway, the e-mail's on the way
Since I am not going to participate in the game, though, I e-mailed you my replies, just to get a feel of how well or bad I did.
Anyway, the e-mail's on the way
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 13:01
Thanks Don, I'll check it out.
BTW, I first read Fear and Loathing when it was serialized in Rolling Stone in 1971, before it was published as an actual book; I still have the two issues (point of interest: certain names appearing in the RS version were expunged from the book to avoid legal problems; for example, the astronaut in the Aspen restaurant segment was Wally Schirra); I used the quote from Better Than Sex because it was the most detailed explanation of the Mojo Wire that I could find in my collected works by the good Doctor.
BTW, I first read Fear and Loathing when it was serialized in Rolling Stone in 1971, before it was published as an actual book; I still have the two issues (point of interest: certain names appearing in the RS version were expunged from the book to avoid legal problems; for example, the astronaut in the Aspen restaurant segment was Wally Schirra); I used the quote from Better Than Sex because it was the most detailed explanation of the Mojo Wire that I could find in my collected works by the good Doctor.
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 13:16
I'm reading Generation of Swine right now. It doesn't come quite close to Fear and Loathing, but I still enjoy it.
By the way, how I came about reading Fear and Loathing is sort of worth a mention:
I had an American teacher in university, probably an ex-hippy, although he was very strict and I very much admired him. Anyway, I was starting my way as a journalist back then, juggling between studies and work at the same time.
I had my first feature published in the weekend magazine at that time, and when I came to class a few days later, my teacher asked me to come by his office after class, where he gave me a copy of Fear and Loathing, as a present for my first feature. And he added, with a smile, "I was hoping you'll become a writer one day, just never thought you'd want to be THAT kind of writer. But, if you want to be a journalist, you might as well do it right."
heh, it always remained a puzzle with me whether he thought Thompson's book serves as an example of how to be a journalist, or how NOT to be one
Cheers,
Bira
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By the way, how I came about reading Fear and Loathing is sort of worth a mention:
I had an American teacher in university, probably an ex-hippy, although he was very strict and I very much admired him. Anyway, I was starting my way as a journalist back then, juggling between studies and work at the same time.
I had my first feature published in the weekend magazine at that time, and when I came to class a few days later, my teacher asked me to come by his office after class, where he gave me a copy of Fear and Loathing, as a present for my first feature. And he added, with a smile, "I was hoping you'll become a writer one day, just never thought you'd want to be THAT kind of writer. But, if you want to be a journalist, you might as well do it right."
heh, it always remained a puzzle with me whether he thought Thompson's book serves as an example of how to be a journalist, or how NOT to be one
Cheers,
Bira
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Don,
I went to the 8W site and...I don't know whether to thank you or curse you. It looks like great fun, but easily a black hole into which real time is sucked, never to be regained.
I'm gonna hover for a while before officially plunging in, just to get a feel for it...but I was encouraged by the fact that I did recognize at least one car and driver, and where, and its/his significance, right off the bat(hint...I only looked at the '60s and '70s). OK, it was a softball, but still...
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I went to the 8W site and...I don't know whether to thank you or curse you
. It looks like great fun, but easily a black hole into which real time is sucked, never to be regained.I'm gonna hover for a while before officially plunging in, just to get a feel for it...but I was encouraged by the fact that I did recognize at least one car and driver, and where, and its/his significance, right off the bat(hint...I only looked at the '60s and '70s). OK, it was a softball, but still...
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Uncle Davy,
They use that picture to suck into the game poor people like you and I... you see that picture and you think, "Ha! piece of cake! I know exactly what it is!" and before you know it, you spend 3 hours on the next picture that comes along... heh. Good luck though, it's great fun
They use that picture to suck into the game poor people like you and I... you see that picture and you think, "Ha! piece of cake! I know exactly what it is!" and before you know it, you spend 3 hours on the next picture that comes along... heh. Good luck though, it's great fun
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Since I'm named as a source I thought that it would be unfair to the other contestants for me to enter.
At lesast that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it. ;-)
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At lesast that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it. ;-)
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Posted 14 November 1999 - 16:48
Since I did the 80's and the 70's first (I am stuck with that second picture from the 60's) and since I sort of managed with the 50's based on my own books, the only web source I used from their list was FORIX. There was another site on their list that I wanted to use - the Skypages one - but it seems to have vanished off the face of the web. What a shame, it was a great great site.
Oh, and Dennis - you HAVE to add a search facility to your website. It is a crying shame there isn't one, and if you need help I will gladly help you with setting a good search engine up.
Cheers,
Bira
Oh, and Dennis - you HAVE to add a search facility to your website. It is a crying shame there isn't one, and if you need help I will gladly help you with setting a good search engine up.
Cheers,
Bira
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Bira,
You're stuck with the 2nd '60's picture? That was the one that I got right away and thought was the softball!
I can be bribed for hints.
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You're stuck with the 2nd '60's picture? That was the one that I got right away and thought was the softball!
I can be bribed for hints.
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Bira - I'm a programmer and have done a lot of WEB development (Intranet) with connectivity to Oracle databases using ASP and proprietary languages but to be honest by the time I get home I’ve never had the energy to do any thing for myself!
I would love to have your help in setting a search engine up. Thank you so much for offering.
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Uncle Davy,
I recognised the 1964 Watkins Glen one instantly - and by now I know the story behind it by heart. It's the other one I couldn't make out. It looks to me like a very early 60's car - due to the narrow tyres - and for some reason I have it locked in my mind that it's a Lotus. However, I can't find out who it is and why. Thata chin is so distinctive, it should have been easier to spot the driver. But after too long a searching, I got crossed eyed and totally lost clarity, heh.
Dennis,
Can you tell me please on what OS your web server is on? (ie, NT or Unix/Linux etc.)
Cheers,
Bira
I recognised the 1964 Watkins Glen one instantly - and by now I know the story behind it by heart. It's the other one I couldn't make out. It looks to me like a very early 60's car - due to the narrow tyres - and for some reason I have it locked in my mind that it's a Lotus. However, I can't find out who it is and why. Thata chin is so distinctive, it should have been easier to spot the driver. But after too long a searching, I got crossed eyed and totally lost clarity, heh.
Dennis,
Can you tell me please on what OS your web server is on? (ie, NT or Unix/Linux etc.)
Cheers,
Bira
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Unix (BSD)
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Bira,
I thought that one was too easy.
Sorry, didn't mean to insult your intelligence.
I thought that one was too easy.
Sorry, didn't mean to insult your intelligence.
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Posted 15 November 1999 - 09:10
Wow, if most of you enter at least one category, that is super since the more the merrier as far as I am concerned.
All of you are probably much, much better at the 80's than I am and even the 70's judging by the traffic. Most of these I have to think about and usually mess up on.
On the oldies, I generally get near instant answers....
I really hope all of you will at least try, even if only one group. They need new blood and some of you are completely capable of taking the prizes home.
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All of you are probably much, much better at the 80's than I am and even the 70's judging by the traffic. Most of these I have to think about and usually mess up on.
On the oldies, I generally get near instant answers....
I really hope all of you will at least try, even if only one group. They need new blood and some of you are completely capable of taking the prizes home.
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Anyone going to at least try the pre-war & 1950's sections? The second 1950's picture isn't that hard if you think about it and the first one isn't either.
The pre-war ones are trickier, but can be solved by using this site http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/
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The pre-war ones are trickier, but can be solved by using this site http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/
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heh, Don, you know - one of the pics from the 50's I recognised from Monaco, so I asked Marcel Schot to have a look at his Grand Prix de Monaco book, and sure enough, this distinctively ugly car shows up in that book, but with the wrong driver listed at the wheel! heh
Anyway, yeah, in between Marcel Schot and Marcel Borsboom, the three of us did a pretty good job of cracking them all. We're still stuck on the #18 car from the 60's! And I ain't spending any more time on that
Cheers,
Bira
Anyway, yeah, in between Marcel Schot and Marcel Borsboom, the three of us did a pretty good job of cracking them all. We're still stuck on the #18 car from the 60's! And I ain't spending any more time on that
Cheers,
Bira
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Spent way too much time yesterday cracking the 60's and 80's...but I did manage to get the #18 at last.
Haven't had time to seriously pursue the other categories, but hope to give them a try in the next day or so. Fun stuff.
Haven't had time to seriously pursue the other categories, but hope to give them a try in the next day or so. Fun stuff.
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Ah, I got Driver X in car #18 at Location Y immediately ! And Drive Z in Car #10 at Location Y is not that hard, don't talk yourself out of the right answer (I speak from experience since I do on the 70's & especially the 80's cars all the time).
Good to call in the outsider for help - this formula libre, anything goes!
Chief, good move to start off in one category and get a feel for things. When I started I only did the old Senior Gane since I was usually clueless on the cars in the Junior Game. It was usually "Who the heck is that?"
ciao!
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! And Drive Z in Car #10 at Location Y is not that hard, don't talk yourself out of the right answer (I speak from experience since I do on the 70's & especially the 80's cars all the time).Good to call in the outsider for help - this formula libre, anything goes!
Chief, good move to start off in one category and get a feel for things. When I started I only did the old Senior Gane since I was usually clueless on the cars in the Junior Game. It was usually "Who the heck is that?"
ciao!
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Posted 19 November 1999 - 05:56
Just a reminder:
8W November '99 deadline: November 29.
Mail your educated guesses to:
8w@racer.demon.nl
The Millennium edition of 8W starts on December 6.
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8W November '99 deadline: November 29.
Mail your educated guesses to:
8w@racer.demon.nl
The Millennium edition of 8W starts on December 6.
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I'm gonna try the pre-war, Don.
At least I _think_ I know one of them
At least I _think_ I know one of them
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Does the 'mythical' 8W game still exist has anyone got a link the one above is u/s ?
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No, sadly they stopped running it a few years back.
The accumulated research, however, is available at http://8w.forix.com/mrh/index.html
David Fox
The accumulated research, however, is available at http://8w.forix.com/mrh/index.html
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That's a shame David sounds like it was a lot of fun.
I guess this thread will now go back to the bottom of the pile and die.
Do old TNF threads die or are they part of the important equation that is used to answer the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything that will one day be worked out by Deep Thought ?
I guess this thread will now go back to the bottom of the pile and die.
Do old TNF threads die or are they part of the important equation that is used to answer the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything that will one day be worked out by Deep Thought ?
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Not as such. The about us page at 8W explains how the site has changed. Quite a few of the winning answers are still on the site though - just look for "Reader's Why" and that piece was part of someone's entry.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go and get some virtual Duraglit ... those replica virtual trophies are looking a bit tarnished!
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go and get some virtual Duraglit ... those replica virtual trophies are looking a bit tarnished!
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go and get some virtual Duraglit ... those replica virtual trophies are looking a bit tarnished!
Your virtual modesty does you credit!
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Do we have a virtual winner in our virtual midst per chance ?
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There's a list of the winners here (if you scroll down a bit). The list is (unsurprisingly) mainly made up of TNFers.
Slightly OT - whatever happened to John Cross, who used to be very active both on TNF and in the 8W quizzes?
Edit: I've just realised that this link is the same one that Richard posted above - apologies.
Slightly OT - whatever happened to John Cross, who used to be very active both on TNF and in the 8W quizzes?
Edit: I've just realised that this link is the same one that Richard posted above - apologies.
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Was away for the week, and never thought I'd see this thread pop up again! Look at the remarkable self-constraint everyone, and Don in particular, is showing by not giving away the answers... marvellous. Brings back some wonderful memories.
With our consent, a TNF member revived the game for short period of time but we never considered bringing it back into life. It was fun while it lasted...
The correct address for the site today is either http://8w.forix.com or http://forix.autosport.com/8w
The address David was pointing to refers to our motorsport history portal MRH.
We all know the answer to that, don't we? It's John Surtees in the 1961 Italian GP. Or Ian Ashley in the 1977 Canadian GP, for that matter.
With our consent, a TNF member revived the game for short period of time but we never considered bringing it back into life. It was fun while it lasted...
The correct address for the site today is either http://8w.forix.com or http://forix.autosport.com/8w
The address David was pointing to refers to our motorsport history portal MRH.
Do old TNF threads die or are they part of the important equation that is used to answer the question of the meaning of life, the universe and everything that will one day be worked out by Deep Thought ?
We all know the answer to that, don't we? It's John Surtees in the 1961 Italian GP. Or Ian Ashley in the 1977 Canadian GP, for that matter.
