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[Dennis David]

Every driver thinks they’re good. They constantly talk about getting the right opportunity, having the backing of the team, or feeling comfortable with the car…others they just know it.



BTW A penny for the first person who guesses the identity of the third person.


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[This message has been edited by Dennis David (edited 01-03-2000).]

[SteveB2]

Dennis,

Great photo. Innes Ireland?

S

[Marcel Schot]

Which person is the third? Middle one seems Jochen Rindt, right one Jackie Stewart. The other one...no idea, suits aren't my specialty

[Dennis David]

Yes it is Innes. What got me to post it is a recent blurb on Coulthard. Now don't get me wrong, I love the boy like a brother but his asking the British public to get behind him in order that he can win the WDC is just crazy to me. Too many excuses from him and for that matter most of the rest of the current crop. I almost long for Nigel!

If you asked me what Schumacher's strongest trait is...well ...the man just knows it. Just like Senna before him and Rindt before him.

"I think I've proved that, in equal cars, if I want someone to stay behind me... well, I think he stays behind..."

Gilles Villeneuve


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[SteveB2]

Innes used to have a regular column in Road & Track. I think I would appreciate it a lot more now.

Good story I remember from it: (I'll try to get as much as I can right). He and Moss were driving a car in some sort of informal setting.

Innes asked Stirling why he was shifting up to fifth at a certain point on the track when fourth was still in range. Moss responded, "Well, to save a bit of Petrol."

Innes replied, "But Stirling, we're not having to PAY for it."

What a character.

[Fast One]

Dennis--

Rindt????? Big John dusted him off by about 9 seconds a lap a the Ring when they were both in Coopers. I just know it...

[Dennis David]

That's more a reflection of Big John, his mastery of the Ring and where they were at that stage in their careers. I just think it. ;-)

BTW I'll agree with you on one thing many people fail to realize how good Surtees really was. If he wasn't so stubborn and didn't have to go his own way he would have accomplished more during his 4 wheel career.

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[This message has been edited by Dennis David (edited 01-04-2000).]

[Fast One]

Dennis--

I meant no harm. I can see by my posts tonight that I'm in an impertinant (or impish!) mood. You already know I have about as much use for Rindt as Jenks had, so I couldn't resist the opportunity. Besides Rindt had already won Le Mans by that point, so how inexperienced could he have been. Anyway, I know you admire JR, so I'll try to lay off as much as I can. Just let me fire one off every ONCE in a while...

[Dennis David]

Fast - mi amigo no problemo! I know exactly how you feel about Jochen. Hopefully you did not have to shave off any beard. What's really cool is that little French-Canadians quote!

"I think I've proved that, in equal cars, if I want someone to stay behind me... well, I think he stays behind..."

Says it all doesn't it?

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[Fast One]

Dennis--

You were editing while I was replying. Yes, it's no secret that I think Fearless John was really one of the special ones. Memories tend to be too stats oriented, and we forget how many times, in those days of unreliable cars, guys like Surtees and Gurney were leading when their cars broke.

But his "fatal flaw" was his personality. Had he stuck with one team like Clark (hell, if he'd stayed with Lotus, instead of worrying about Innes Ireland), he would have been probably a three time champion. Funny thing, is how much Michael Schumacher is like Surtees, in the control he wants to have over the workings of the car and team. If he drove now, in the current environment of Formula One, I think Ferrari would have already won that title.

Why is it that time has been so hard on certain drivers, and so overly kind to others?

[Fast One]

Dennis--

We keep crossing. As to GV's quote, I would say, "I guess it depends on who was behind him."

I do like the sentiment, though. You can't be great if you believe you can be beaten.

[Dennis David]

Fast - You know there was that time when nobody seemed a match for Stewart so I guess I just latched on to Rindt as the anti-Stewart. I was of course very upset when he died. The fact that Ickx was catching him up made it all the worst as I was really disappointed in the Belgian for not showing better against Stewart.

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[Fast One]

Dennis--

I was never a Stewart fan, even though I recognised the man was fast! I have the minority, and unpopular view that he dealt the racing we all love a death blow with his whining on about safety. I agreed, I hate to say these days, with Jenks: if the corner is too dangerous, slow down. GP racing has lost its tactical aspect these days; it's just a short sprint now, so no one can afford to back off anywhere. And the price for that is the loss of the great circuits.

[Dennis David]

Fast - I couldn't agree with you more on Big John but in the end his stubbornness may have saved his life when he refused to get into that Honda.

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[Fast One]

Dennis--

Too bad he couldn't keep Schlesser out of it. If it weren't for that crash, I think Honda would have stayed in, and the end of the sixties might have looked very different.

[Dennis David]

Fast - to be honest with you I've never been a big Honda fan after that episode and later the way they treated Frank Williams after his accident well... Do you know the story? They didn't want to be associated with a cripple.

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[Fast One]

Dennis--

Yeah, I have always had trouble warming to Honda, but then I've always had trouble warming to Frank as well. Honda should have remembered that when Frank's legs still worked he beat every driver in Formula One by a country mile in a footrace they ran for some charity. I think it was the year before Frank's accident. By the way, I can't say Honda was too kind to Eddie Jordan either. He seemed like the logical choice for the works engines...

[This message has been edited by Fast One (edited 01-04-2000).]