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[Tomecek]

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Originally posted by glorius&victorius
I used to regularly visit the grandprix.com with interest to get the latest, inside, behind the scenes, underground, conspiracy theories doing the round in Formula One. However lately I visit the site less as I get the impression that most are one-off conspiracy and behind the scene stories, which never develop into a real story.

The site positions itself as reporting on the business of formula 1, the corporate dynamics, board room stories, but most are rumours: 1 out of 5 ever progresses beyond rumours.

At first I enjoyed reading this stuff, but lately (especially post spy-affair) I lost my appetite for grandprix.com. Sort of the same how I lost my appetite of watching CNN after September 11, where I think objectivity was completely lost.

But don't get me wrong.... to have a bit of rumour-phantasy-conspiracy filled reading of F1 they are ok to have around.

I wonder how others think about grandprix.com?

I consider this as one of worst web sites

[Obster]

I like it. Generally, the reporting is more selective, with one or two stories a day rather than following every rumor. True, they try to connect the dots on some items: the more far-fetched of these are explained in a humorous context in the Mole stories.
Mostly the reportage is solid-not a suprise given the writers involved. I like the stuff Doodson files, and I LOVED the old Eff-one articles-pretty clever.

[Bernd Rosemeyer]

It seems they got the following one wrong:

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Originally posted by grandprix.com
The word in the F1 paddock in Monte Carlo is that Fernando Alonso has just inked a deal to drive for Ferrari in 2010.

Alonso signs for Ferrari

[secessionman]

They may have got that wrong but IIRC they were the first to announce that Kimi had signed for Ferrari, sometime in Mid 2005.

[alfa1]

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Originally posted by Bernd Rosemeyer
It seems they got the following one wrong:

Originally posted by grandprix.com
The word in the F1 paddock in Monte Carlo is that Fernando Alonso has just inked a deal to drive for Ferrari in 2010.

Alonso signs for Ferrari

There are probably many reasons to criticize grandprix.com, but I'm not sure this article is one of them.
After all, it is true - the word in the paddock was exactly that.

[Mat]

The word in the paddock, is obviously, not worth very much.

As always.

[Ruf]

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Originally posted by alfa1




There are probably many reasons to criticize grandprix.com, but I'm not sure this article is one of them.
After all, it is true - the word in the paddock was exactly that.

Actually, yes it is. This is example of tipical cheap journalism. While the "word in the paddock was exactly that" indeed, the title of that thing shouts "Alonso signs for Ferrari". Something like "Alonso signs for Ferrari?" would have been much better, however noone bothers to click on yet another Alonso/Ferrari rumour. Presenting it as an indisputable confirmed fact even though you retract it in first paragraph sells much more better.

[kar]

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Originally posted by Mat
The word in the paddock, is obviously, not worth very much.

As always.

Not always, but at GP.com the 'word in the paddock' is Big Bad Joe talking with his 'brit pack' colleagues who seem to all inhabit some kind of strange bubble impervious to the outside world.

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Actually, yes it is. This is example of tipical cheap journalism.

Don't worry Ruf, I don't think anyone confuses GP.com 'content' with credible journalism.

[alfa1]

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Originally posted by Ruf
Presenting it as an indisputable confirmed fact even though you retract it in first paragraph sells much more better.

Hate to sound like an apologist for grandprix.com, but I think you'll find that every media organisation in the entire world does this kind of thing from time to time.

[Ruf]

Nope, only tabloids.

[KWSN - DSM]

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Originally posted by Ruf
Nope, only tabloids.

No we do not have look too far to see that very behaviour.

[lukywill]

it's gp.com, 0 - twin windows 1. :]

[ZooL]

Offers an alternative viewpoint.

Asks very valid questions in its articles.

Ponders questions the Paddock F1 News Journalists are fearful of asking due to their passes being revoked.

[undersquare]

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Originally posted by Bernd Rosemeyer
It seems they got the following one wrong:


Alonso signs for Ferrari

Going back to May to find one speculative report was wrong

If you read any site innocently thinking it's 100% dependable then you're only going to be disillusioned, and normally a lot quicker than that.

[kar]

Ahh grandprix.com always the source of informed commentary. Not.

Couldn't let this little gem pass up without discussion:

http://www.grandprix...gt/gt20918.html

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Shanghai does not understand Formula 1. It never has and I doubt it ever will. Formula 1 is a circus but they have better things to spend their money on. And if they like watching cars racing and crashing they do not need to go to the middle of a marsh out in the burbs to watch it. It is happening every day on every street. Driving standards in Shanghai are right up there with sub-Saharan Africa. On the day when the FIA put out its ridiculous statement about standardised engines in F1 one could not help but wonder whether it would be better if Max Mosley and his disciples would not be of more use saving the Chinese from road accidents if they are looking for a raison d'etre, rather than messing around with a sport which will always regulate itself for the simple reason that it is run by businessmen who understand when too much is too much.

Gee Joe, would those be businessmen like, I don't know, all of them, that knew too much was too much with the naked proliferation of collateral debt obligations, credit default swaps and over leveraged junk borrowing?

This guy, Saward, is plainly an idiot.

We now know full well that businessmen will happily hang themselves if you give them enough rope - all you need to do is promise them outrageous profit just shortly before the oxygen supply ceases reaching their brains. The very businessmen that own F1 are guilty of the same sort of business practices that have put the planet in to the precarious financial position it is in today.

Maybe a little over regulation, as prescribed by Max Mosley and his 'disciples' is better than no regulation - something spectacularly demonstrated by the US and UK governments and their respective policy and regulatory bodies the BOE, FSA, SEC and Fed during the last decade.

But maybe we should trust 'honest' Joe, and just put our minds at rest safe and sound in the knowledge that the hedge fund that owns the sport we love are truly altruistic and would never see the sport damaged for their own short term financial gain.