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[Andy35]

Thoughts?

 

https://www.formula1...on-service.html

 

 

Andy

 

 

[Massa_f1]

Great for the fans in the countries that can have access to this service. Annoying to those that aren't 

[TheRacingElf]

Would like to see a list of the lucky countries.

[Anja]

Looks like won't be available to me, but $8-12 a month is much much less than I expected. 

[Fastcake]

Some details from the press release:

 

Formula 1, the pinnacle of motor sport, is set to launch early in the 2018 FIA Formula 1 World Championship season F1 TV, an innovative way for fans to enhance and enjoy their experience of Grand Prix racing.

F1 TV is Formula 1’s over the top (OTT) platform and marks F1’s biggest investment in its digital transformation to date.

Formula 1 fans will get commercial-free live streams of each race with multi language commentary. In addition, the service will provide exclusive access to all 20 driver on-board cameras throughout every race session. F1 TV Pro will have unique feeds not available on any other platform with the capability of multi-level personalisation.

 

Subscribers will be able to choose the content they view and how and when they access it. All of practice, qualifying and races, will be offered live, along with press conferences and pre and post-race interviews. Subscribers will be able to watch live races of the main support series, the FIA Formula 2 Championship, GP3 Series and Porsche Supercup, among others.

 

During the season, F1 TV will be made available in four different languages (English, French, German and Spanish) and will appear in nearly two dozen markets at launch (including Germany, France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin America). Access will initially be available through desktop and web, with mobile apps and TV apps being phased in on Amazon, Apple and Android, enabling users to watch on a range of different devices at no additional cost. Pricing for F1 TV Pro will be offered on a monthly basis of USD$8-$12, and annual rates will be priced according to market.

 

A less expensive, non-live subscription tier, F1 TV Access will provide live race timing data and radio commentary, as well as extended highlights of each session from the race weekend. It will also be underscored by unprecedented access to archive video content from the amazing historic archive owned by Formula 1. F1 TV Access will be available on a near-global basis at launch, to complement F1 TV Pro.

 

https://www.formula1...on-service.html

 

[Risil]

Considerably less than what MotoGP charges. Obviously the racing's not as good, but interesting nonetheless.

[barnardferrari]

It's worrying that they don't promise it will be available from the start of the year.  Instead, it is "set to launch early in the 2018 FIA Formula 1 World Championship season."

[Nonesuch]

Would like to see a list of the lucky countries.

 

"During the season, F1 TV (...) will appear in nearly two dozen markets at launch (including Germany, France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin America)." That last group could easily account for about a dozen, leaving only a handful of countries 'unknown'.

 

It's a bit expensive, about what Liberty-owned Ziggo charges for F1 in the Netherlands now (assuming that dollar figure is without various taxes).

 

I'll stick with the free television broadcast. I have little interest in the non-race sessions or the support races, and my experience from the WEC subscription suggests to me that onboard feeds aren't nearly as interesting as I first thought them to be.

 

But, good that it's an option!

Edited by Nonesuch, 27 February 2018 - 16:42.

[Jovanotti]

If it's web-based it won't be limited to certain countries surely? Not a bad offer actually.

Edited by Jovanotti, 27 February 2018 - 16:45.

[FBJim]

It does say that there's going to be a less expensive service with just live timing and "unprecedented archive video access" available "near-globally". 

 

It depends on the quality of the archive, if it's like VideoPass where a ton of the 2000s races are in awful RealVideo 240p quality, and the 90s races are just highlight films, that'd be disappointing. 

[jonpollak]

$8-$12 a month.. Not bad at all.

[johnmhinds]

 

 

set to launch early in the 2018 FIA Formula 1 World Championship season

 

So it's not launching in time for Australia?

[TheRacingElf]

"During the season, F1 TV (...) will appear in nearly two dozen markets at launch (including Germany, France, USA, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Hungary and much of Latin America)." That last group could easily account for about a dozen, leaving only a handful of countries 'unknown'.

 

It's a bit expensive, about what Liberty-owned Ziggo charges for F1 in the Netherlands now (assuming that dollar figure is without various taxes).

 

I'll stick with the free television broadcast. I have little interest in the non-race sessions or the support races, and my experience from the WEC subscription suggests to me that onboard feeds aren't nearly as interesting as I first thought them to be.

 

But, good that it's an option!

I have Ziggo now but I would instantly buy a F1 TV subscription as it means I don't have to listen to Olav Mol, Jack Plooij and the rest of the Verstappen worshippers in the studio anymore.

[jannyg]

Sounds great. Assume it wont be available in the UK as F1 fans will just cancel Sky?

 

Its a great alternative, hope it is available in the UK.

[Jordan44]

It wont be available in the UK due to the Sky deal... but this is what VPN's were made for.

[jannyg]

It wont be available in the UK due to the Sky deal... but this is what VPN's were made for.

 

[johnmhinds]

It wont be available in the UK due to the Sky deal... but this is what VPN's were made for.

If you can get a non UK credit card to pay for it, and non of the apps with be available on the UK versions of the various app stores.

[hodgy21]

It wont be available in the UK due to the Sky deal... but this is what VPN's were made for.

I got rid of Sky half way through last season. I will definitely look into something like this.

[AustinF1]

So, if the "Pro" version also has on-demand capability for every session, pre-race, post-race, etc, then the price is not bad. I'd go for that. 

[lustigson]

I have Ziggo now but I would instantly buy a F1 TV subscription as it means I don't have to listen to Olav Mol, Jack Plooij and the rest of the Verstappen worshippers in the studio anymore.

 

Same here. However, for € 9,99 per month there's also IndyCar, which I watch every now and then, and the odd NASCAR race here and there.

[AustinF1]

 They do say you can access content "how and when" you want, so I guess there's on-demand capability.

[FBJim]

 They do say you can access content "how and when" you want, so I guess there's on-demand capability.

The really fake-looking video on the F1 site says "watch live or catch up on-demand"

[SonGoku]

That's a great deal for me and I don't have to hear Croft being a jerk again, win-win.

[jonpollak]

If you can get a non UK credit card to pay for it, and non of the apps with be available on the UK versions of the various app stores.

Hmmm...You have fat fingers..Any chance of a clarification?

[TomNokoe]

Pricing is phenomenal. A tremendous shame that the UK don't have it.

Enormous sense of envy towards the USA who are essentially being rewarded and pandered to thanks to their apathy over the last few decades.

[AustinF1]

Pricing is phenomenal. A tremendous shame that the UK don't have it.

Enormous sense of envy towards the USA who are essentially being rewarded and pandered to thanks to their apathy over the last few decades.

Don't you think they'd offer this to the UK if they could? I'm sure it will be available there asap.

[FBJim]

Don't you think they'd offer this to the UK if they could? I'm sure it will be available there asap.

They'll have to cut a big money deal with Sky like WWE did. Same with Australia/Foxtel probably. 

Edited by FBJim, 27 February 2018 - 17:12.

[TomNokoe]

Don't you think they'd offer this to the UK if they could? I'm sure it will be available there asap.

If, buts, maybes.
Thanks Bernie.

[TheRacingElf]

Don't you think they'd offer this to the UK if they could? I'm sure it will be available there asap.

There has been talk it won't be available in the UK until 2025... By that time there aren't many potential customers for F1 TV left I fear...

[jonpollak]

So it's not launching in time for Australia?

[AustinF1]

They'll have to cut a big money deal with Sky like WWE did. Same with Australia/Foxtel probably. 

Right. That's what I'm saying. It's not there now because they can't disregard the Sky contract. But it'll be there eventually.

[AustinF1]

There has been talk it won't be available in the UK until 2025... By that time there aren't many potential customers for F1 TV left I fear...

Why so long? Is that the length of the Sky deal?

[johnmhinds]

Hmmm...You have fat fingers..Any chance of a clarification?

What needs clarifying?

 

If someone in the UK wanted to dump Sky and use this service to watch F1 instead then they'll probably have to sign up using a credit/bank card from a region where the service is available.

 

And if they want to download and use any of the mobile/TV apps then they'll also have to circumvent the region locks that most app stores have.

 

Setting up a VPN connection is the easy bit compared to all that hassle.

Edited by johnmhinds, 27 February 2018 - 17:21.

[pierrep]

poor brendo. name spelt wrong. service looks great though. i wonder if it will be included with amazon prime.

 

[Hyatt]

count me in!   

[AustinF1]

poor brendo. name spelt wrong. service looks great though. i wonder if it will be included with amazon prime.

 

 

As a current subscriber, that would be nice for me!

[johnmhinds]

poor brendo. name spelt wrong. service looks great though. i wonder if it will be included with amazon prime.

 

Jesus wept that typeface is still awful. Why would you connect the R like that?

[Seanspeed]

Pricing is phenomenal. A tremendous shame that the UK don't have it.

Enormous sense of envy towards the USA who are essentially being rewarded and pandered to thanks to their apathy over the last few decades.

Yea, that's seriously frustrating. I've been wanting this for a long time and now it looks like the home of F1 wont even get it for quite a while.

[Imateria]

Why so long? Is that the length of the Sky deal?

I think the SKy deal is till about 21/22. It's also exclusive, last I heard (which admitedly was when the Sky deal extension was announced) once the current Channel 4 deal runs out that will be the end of F1 outside of Sky in the UK.

[AustinF1]

poor brendo. name spelt wrong. service looks great though. i wonder if it will be included with amazon prime.

Several of them are misspelled.

[ConsiderAndGo]

Sky have an exclusive deal until the end of the 2024 season.

I’m pretty gutted really, but, where there’s a will, there’s a way !!

[johnmhinds]

I think the SKy deal is till about 21/22. It's also exclusive, last I heard (which admitedly was when the Sky deal extension was announced) once the current Channel 4 deal runs out that will be the end of F1 outside of Sky in the UK.

The Sky deal ends in 2024. 

[noikeee]

Dunno if I could justify splashing 10€ every month purely on F1 broadcasting, different standards of living depending on where you live and different priorities in life I guess, but realistically I also know it could never possibly be cheaper than that.

 

Looks good overall. I presume they're not committing to launching it by Australia to give themselves time not to launch with a buggy app? Could be a bit **** if they launch the service and then it doesn't work properly, it's safer not to commit to a deadline yet, this is an app that didn't exist anyway, it's not a service that people were counting on.

[Chunkinator]

$12 dollars a month seems very good, it's infuriating that sky have that exclusive deal in the UK though - if it weren't for that I'd get F1TV with no hesitation.

[Anja]

Yea, that's seriously frustrating. I've been wanting this for a long time and now it looks like the home of F1 wont even get it for quite a while.

 

If there's a will, everything can be done. If the platform proves to be a success and Liberty will go all in on this, I'm sure they'll at least try to negiotiate with Sky over UK availability before their deal ends. 

[pierrep]

Several of them are misspelled.

lol yea i just re-read through the list. pretty comical.

[SonGoku]

Well you guys in the UK can thank Bernie for that, which idiot gives a channel such an exclusive long term deal, hope the money is worth it with not even 1M viewers every race.

[dau]

Several of them are misspelled.

Looks like one of those football games that doesn't have any real licences and has to come up with team and player names. 

 

Buy Generic Forumla One Game now and fight Ferdinand Alsono and Derek Riccairdo for the World Chompianship! Enjoy exciting tracks such as Goldwood, Moonsa or Molebum!

Edited by dau, 27 February 2018 - 17:43.

[Enkei]

I have Ziggo now but I would instantly buy a F1 TV subscription as it means I don't have to listen to Olav Mol, Jack Plooij and the rest of the Verstappen worshippers in the studio anymore.

 

Amen to that. Jack Plooij interviews are the worst.

[TomNokoe]

The Sky deal ends in 2024.

Which is a lifetime in F1.

Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso, Kimi and maybe Ricciardo will have all retired by then.

The current generation of fans will only fade away from the sport with their own generation of drivers.

The platform of Sky F1 will categorically not encourage or welcome new fans into the new sport.

Meaning come 2024, F1 will lose a lot of it's current UK fanbase, and will have done nothing to engage the next generation. That's a lot of drivers/engineers/mechanics/ SPECTATORS!

I hold a sliver of hope that when it becomes Sky-exclusive for 2019, FOM will find a way wrestle away the rights, but we'll see. Doubt it.