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[kall447]

Hello.

 

Does anyone know what happened to the Auto Union, once owned by the Neil Corner?

 

And how many original Type D exist today?

 

 

Thank you.

[Tim Murray]

These earlier threads may be of interest:

Crosthwaite and Gardiner Auto Union restoration...Where?

Auto Unions in the Soviet Union

Silver Arrows

Auto Union Type D auction

Here’s what Doug Nye posted some fifteen years ago in the Crosthwaite and Gardiner thread:

I don't understand some of the apparent confusion over these cars. Paul and Barbara Karassik have sold BOTH of the D-Type (sorry, Typ 1938 and Typ 1939) cars which were restored for them here in England by C&G after they had succeeding in brineging out a large collection of original bits 'from Russia'.

Their restored 1938-specification single-stage supercharged car is the one which eventually went to Audi, and it is the sister 1939-specification 2-stage supercharged car which has been kept in the UK though privately owned by a foreign collector and which is currently displayed on loan at the Donington Collection.

I repeat, I understand that this car's owner is presently offering this 2-stage car for sale. Introductions can be made...

Trust me, I'm a journalist...

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The superb Crosthwaite & Gardiner company have restored:

The Neil Corner-owned ex-Kerry Payne ex-Zdenek Pohl V12 D-Type - sold by Neil and presently (allegedly) in storage in Germany for its overseas owner - together with their similarly ex-Neil Corner Mercedes-Benz W154 and Bugatti Type 59.

The two Karassik V12 D-Types, one 1938 car using some original parts - one 1939 car using many more original parts.

The Latvian V16-engined D-Type chassised 'hillclimb car' acquired by Audi in exchange for replica below.

The Deutsches Museum 16-cylinder C-Type

C&G have built:

One replica V16-engined D-Type chassised 'hillclimb car' for Latvia in exchange for original above.

One V16 C-Type for Audi - no slots around grille, water pipe through tank.

One V16 C-Type for Audi/VW Wolfsburg - car has slots around grille and outside water pipe - engine displayed separately, I believe.

One V16 C-Type 'stromlinienwagen' for Audi

One V16 A-Type for d'Iteren Freres, Belgium

One replica V12 D-Type for Audi Ingolstadt

DCN

So there are four wholly- or partly-original D-Types currently known about.

Peter Morley posted this about the ex-Neil Corner car in the Silver Arrows thread:

Lee Kun-hee of Samsung owned the Auto-Union for many years, supposedly problems with importing it into my Korea meant it stayed in a Frankfurt warehouse for many years with some of his other cars (Ferrari GTO etc).Apparently he sold the Auto Union for 5.5 million euros in 2007 - which is when he sold the GTO and Bugatti 35B etc.

With luck someone will have some more up-to-date info on these cars.

[JoBo]

These earlier threads may be of interest:

Crosthwaite and Gardiner Auto Union restoration...Where?

Auto Unions in the Soviet Union

Silver Arrows

Auto Union Type D auction

Here’s what Doug Nye posted some fifteen years ago in the Crosthwaite and Gardiner thread:

So there are four wholly- or partly-original D-Types currently known about.

Peter Morley posted this about the ex-Neil Corner car in the Silver Arrows thread:

With luck someone will have some more up-to-date info on these cars.

The ex-Neil Corner D-Type AU and his ex-Mercedes are today united in a private 200+ car collection in Germany.
I saw both cars in that collection in October last year.

This private individual also own the Fangio-250F from the Nürburgring `57.

JoBo

[Tim Murray]

Many thanks JoBo.

[ensign14]

I take it it's not open to the public...

[kall447]

Thanks for the answers. I have gone through quite alot of different threads about the Silver Arrows but not those, thanks!

 

Some pictures of the Type D when it was auctioned by Christies: https://www.flickr.c...157622216969800

 

Another rumour that I read on this forum, is that Bernie Ecclestone might own a Mercedes W25 Record car. Is that true?

[JoBo]

I take it it's not open to the public...

 

Its not open to the public. But there are plans to build a museum.

Among the great museum cars are the Williams Bugatti from Monaco, 917 Porsche, 2 Porsche 550, 2 Porsche 904, a Le Mans winning Bentley, 300SL Alloy, Schumacher Ferrari F1, Hakkinen Mercedes F1, etc., etc.! The greatest stuff!

 

JoBo

Edited by JoBo, 22 January 2019 - 08:55.

[ensign14]

Actually, I'd be more interested in the rubbish ones, if there is the odd Bellasi or Osella or BMW Specials I might be tempted to break in...although the Williams Bugatti sounds a treat.

[JoBo]

Actually, I'd be more interested in the rubbish ones, if there is the odd Bellasi or Osella or BMW Specials I might be tempted to break in...although the Williams Bugatti sounds a treat.

 

You find also there a BMW CSL race car, Ford Capri race car, Porsche 959 "Dakar", Alfa R. "Bimotore", and 3 further 8Cs, Delage GP, Talbot GP, Ferrari MM winning Ferrari, Ferrari "Spagetti" F1, Porsche 962, 2 Lancia Stratos Rally cars, Mercedes Group C, 2 Ferrari P-cars, etc., etc....

I was truly amazed...

 

JoBo

Edited by JoBo, 22 January 2019 - 16:14.

[JoBo]

Actually, I'd be more interested in the rubbish ones, if there is the odd Bellasi or Osella or BMW Specials I might be tempted to break in...although the Williams Bugatti sounds a treat.

 

"too much of a good thing can be wonderful!" (Mae West)