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[Dunc]

Alonso to equal Graham Hill's record of winning motorsport's triple crown with an Indy 500 win.

 

Sebby V to equal Graham Hill and Lewis Hamilton's record of six consecutive seasons between WDCs.

 

Anymore for anymore?

Edited by Dunc, 27 February 2019 - 12:47.

[Dan333SP]

How about first win for Alfa Romeo (as a "team" rather than engine supplier) since 1951? It's a stretch, but...

[Dolph]

Third 5-time WDC is possible (Vettel)

 

or Hamilton moving to second overall between Schumi and Fangio with 6 WDC.

 

6th consecutive WDC would be a record held by Mercedes.

[Nonesuch]

Kimi knocked a big one off the list by winning in Texas last year, namely the time between first and last wins. It had been up in the air for a couple of years waiting for either Alonso or Räikkönen to win another race.

 

Here's another big one: Hamilton can beat Schumacher's 91 race wins record in 2019. He needs to win 18 races. If Mercedes is as good as it was from 2014-2016, that should be possible.

Räikkönen can beat Alonso's total number of points to make it into the top three of all time behind Hamilton and Vettel. He needs 84 points to do so (for reference: Sauber scored 48 points last year).

Hamilton can equal Schumacher's record of 155 podiums if he finishes on the podium in all races. Schumacher did in 2002, so it should be possible.

Mercedes can't yet overtake Williams' total of 114 wins to make it into the top three of all time behind Ferrari and McLaren, but they can get very close.

Mercedes can beat Lotus total of pole positions to make it into the top 4 of all time. They need just seven poles to do so.

Mercedes can equal Ferrari's record of 6 consecutive WCC titles.

Edited by Nonesuch, 18 February 2019 - 15:18.

[Risil]

Someone could always win every race this year. Probably won't.

[GoldenColt]

Crazy to think Lewis could beat Schumacher's record amount of wins this season. Not that it's actually going to happen, but still. Even the existence of a very slim possibility is quite hard to believe.

[noikeee]

Charles Leclerc and Max Verstappen are both eligible to overtake Vettel and become youngest ever champion. They have 2 years to pull it off, either 2019 or 2020.

[SpaceHorseParty]

Schumacher and Hamilton share the record for the longest span of championship winning years (1994–2004 and 2008–2018). Hamilton (or Räikkönen) can break that record by winning one more title.

[messy]

Nico Hulkenberg to finally end his podium drought? It HAS to finally happen this year, doesn't it? It just can't not surely.

[BRG]

Max Verstappen becomes the most bleeped-out driver of all time after his 10th engine failure of the year.

 

Danil Kvyat becomes first driver to complete the season without anybody noticing.

[ensign14]

Danil Kvyat becomes first driver to complete the season without anybody noticing.

 

Surely Marcus Ericsson has that record.  Five years in a row.

[Knowlesy]

Nico Hulkenberg to finally end his podium drought? It HAS to finally happen this year, doesn't it? It just can't not surely.

This is the one thing I want to happen this season.

[NewMrMe]

The Formula 1 website has a list of these.

https://www.formula1...cuINcuRar9.html

 

A few interesting ones it lists that haven't been mentioned.

- Fastest lap in F1 history. If someone goes faster than last year's pole lap at Monza.

- Most Grand Prix led. Hamilton would need to lead 14 races this year to pass Schumacer's record.

- Most races without a pole position - If Sergio Perez competes in every race and doesn't score a pole in the meantime he will take this record in Austria.It is currently jointly held by Martin Brundle and Johnny Herbert.

- Youngest podium - A podium consisting of Leclerc, Verstappen and Gasly would take this record.

- Most career race finishes in the points. If Raikkonen scores points in 18 races he will take this record from Michael Schumacher.

- Most career points without a world title. Both Bottas (needs 205 points) and Ricciardo (182) could take this one from Felipe Massa.

- Youngest Ferrari winner. Leclerc will take this if he wins anywhere this year.

[PlayboyRacer]

Charles Leclerc to equal Jacques Villeneuve and Lewis Hamilton in winning the World Championship in his second season of F1.

[MrAerodynamicist]

Charles Leclerc to equal Jacques Villeneuve and Lewis Hamilton in winning the World Championship in his second season of F1.

Norris, Albon or Russell to beat it by winning in their first!

[Nonesuch]

 Most career points without a world title. Both Bottas (needs 205 points) and Ricciardo (182) could take this one from Felipe Massa.

 

Now there's something fans of either driver can look forward to!

[PlatenGlass]

Sebby V to equal Graham Hill and Lewis Hamilton's record of six consecutive seasons between WDCs.
 
Anymore fro anymore?

Isn't Lauda's record longer? 1977/1984 vs 1962/1968 and 2008/2014.

[Collombin]

Lauda's wasn't consecutive in that he took a couple of years out.

[krapmeister]

Someone could always win every race this year. Probably won't.

Has anyone ever come last in every race in a season?

[PlayboyRacer]

Norris, Albon or Russell to beat it by winning in their first!

Now wouldn't that be something! Seriously though I'd love nothing more than Leclerc fighting for the title, new blood is always welcome to shake up the established.

[ensign14]

Leclerc could end the longest podium drought for a country with a podium - 68+ years for Monaco.

 

Also the longest Grand Prix win drought for a country - 69+ years.

[BRG]

Surely Marcus Ericsson has that record.  Five years in a row.

I hadn't noticed.  Which rather proves your point!

[Atreiu]

What the record for different drivers making it to the podium in a given season?

 

With so many races, I wish there were more real carnage to allow shocking results.

[Collombin]

What the record for different drivers making it to the podium in a given season?

Dunno but I bet it was either in 1968 or 1982.

[Atreiu]

Dunno but I bet it was either in 1968 or 1982.

 

Both had 17, according to wikipedia.

 

I miss some randomness of the 80s and 90s.

[Cornholio]

Isn't Lauda's record longer? 1977/1984 vs 1962/1968 and 2008/2014.

In absolute time yeah, but he didnt contest the 1980 and 1981 seasons

[NewMrMe]

Another one that could be equalled this season, most consecutive wins at the same race for a constructor,

 

The record is currently 6 races, which McLaren hold for winning the Monaco Grand Prix every year from 1988 to 1993.

 

Mercedes will equal this if they win at Monza, Suzuka or Abu Dhabi.

[messy]

The Formula 1 website has a list of these.
https://www.formula1...cuINcuRar9.html
 
A few interesting ones it lists that haven't been mentioned.
- Fastest lap in F1 history. If someone goes faster than last year's pole lap at Monza.
- Most Grand Prix led. Hamilton would need to lead 14 races this year to pass Schumacer's record.
- Most races without a pole position - If Sergio Perez competes in every race and doesn't score a pole in the meantime he will take this record in Austria.It is currently jointly held by Martin Brundle and Johnny Herbert.
- Youngest podium - A podium consisting of Leclerc, Verstappen and Gasly would take this record.
- Most career race finishes in the points. If Raikkonen scores points in 18 races he will take this record from Michael Schumacher.
- Most career points without a world title. Both Bottas (needs 205 points) and Ricciardo (182) could take this one from Felipe Massa.
- Youngest Ferrari winner. Leclerc will take this if he wins anywhere this year.

That one amazes me. I'm thinking surely, SURELY, F1 history is littered with drivers who've been around for longer than Perez without taking a pole. I could probably name twenty from the 90s alone. Except.....nope, Perez has started more races than any of them.

[noikeee]

That one amazes me. I'm thinking surely, SURELY, F1 history is littered with drivers who've been around for longer than Perez without taking a pole. I could probably name twenty from the 90s alone. Except.....nope, Perez has started more races than any of them.

Side effect from there being more races per season now.

It's even worse when it comes to all-time points "records". When there's 21 races and a win in any of them is worth 25... Points stats are completely meaningless IMO.

[Bleu]

Side effect from there being more races per season now.

It's even worse when it comes to all-time points "records". When there's 21 races and a win in any of them is worth 25... Points stats are completely meaningless IMO.

 

British trio of Brundle, Herbert and Warwick all had more or less nine full or nearly full seasons, plus each with some partial. Perez is starting his ninth now, having missed three races. 

[noriaki]

Any stat maker to convert the "most races done" list to a "most seasons done" list? So one race in the 1950's on a season with 7 races should be worth 1/7th of a season, three times as much as one race start on a 2010's season with 21 races. I feel that would be a better representative of true "experience".

[wingwalker]

That one amazes me. I'm thinking surely, SURELY, F1 history is littered with drivers who've been around for longer than Perez without taking a pole. I could probably name twenty from the 90s alone. Except.....nope, Perez has started more races than any of them.

Exactly what I thought when I saw this. Crazy stuff. Also, I'm old.

[PayasYouRace]

Any stat maker to convert the "most races done" list to a "most seasons done" list? So one race in the 1950's on a season with 7 races should be worth 1/7th of a season, three times as much as one race start on a 2010's season with 21 races. I feel that would be a better representative of true "experience".

Even with that, careers tend to be longer nowadays. This is Sergio’s ninth season and he’s not looking close to retirement. Back in the 50s you were lucky to race regularly for that long, and even more recently going more than 10 years was unusual.

[PlatenGlass]

Any stat maker to convert the "most races done" list to a "most seasons done" list? So one race in the 1950's on a season with 7 races should be worth 1/7th of a season, three times as much as one race start on a 2010's season with 21 races. I feel that would be a better representative of true "experience".

Ages ago (so it will be well out of date now) I did a wins list where I "normalised" all the seasons to 16 races. So if someone won 5 races in a 10-race season, that would count as 5*16/10=8 wins.

Edit - This is what I got at the time:

1. Schumacher - 86.1
2. Prost - 51.5
3. Fangio - 48.4
4. Senna - 41
5. Clark - 39.9
6. Stewart - 36.7
7. Mansell - 31
8. Moss - 28.9
9. Lauda - 25.7
10. Ascari - 24.9

Edited by PlatenGlass, 22 February 2019 - 13:57.

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

Has anyone ever come last in every race in a season?

Luca Badoer is quite safe bet

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

Dunno but I bet it was either in 1968 or 1982.

1997 was rich on podiums as well

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

Is Luca Badoer's record of most races without a single point still standing?

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

Side effect from there being more races per season now.

It's even worse when it comes to all-time points "records". When there's 21 races and a win in any of them is worth 25... Points stats are completely meaningless IMO.

All the stats are meaningless aparat from winning percentage.

[Balnazzard]

Crazy to think Lewis could beat Schumacher's record amount of wins this season. Not that it's actually going to happen, but still. Even the existence of a very slim possibility is quite hard to believe.

Yeap, after his first championship I always thought it would be Vettel, not Hamilton going for Schumi's records, but those regulation changes really changed all that in 2014 as well as the fact that Hamilton played his cards right and left Mclaren at right time...
 

Ofc its still possible for Vettel to even do the same, if he and Ferrari would go to championship winning seasons for next few years such as Hamilton has done with Merc. But ye doubfull that Hamilton will break that record this season yet and if Mercedes really has harder season than expected, he might not even get close to that record yet.

Edited by Balnazzard, 22 February 2019 - 15:06.

[Balnazzard]

That one amazes me. I'm thinking surely, SURELY, F1 history is littered with drivers who've been around for longer than Perez without taking a pole. I could probably name twenty from the 90s alone. Except.....nope, Perez has started more races than any of them.

Yeap, well you "blame" that on having more races these days than in 90s ofc....with every season recently having about 20 races per season where as in 90s there still were "only" 16 or 17 races held each season. And ofc we tend to forget just how many years Perez has already been around, one of the more experienced drivers on the grid, right behind Kimi, Hamilton and Vettel with roughly same amount of seasons behind him as Hulk and Grosjean

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

Yeap, well you "blame" that on having more races these days than in 90s ofc....with every season recently having about 20 races per season where as in 90s there still were "only" 16 or 17 races held each season. And ofc we tend to forget just how many years Perez has already been around, one of the more experienced drivers on the grid, right behind Kimi, Hamilton and Vettel with roughly same amount of seasons behind him as Hulk and Grosjean

If Perez scores poleposition than Grosjean is the next candidate for that record?

Hulk scored his poleposition back in 2010 thus eliminating himself forever from this record hunt.

[NewMrMe]

If Perez does manage to score a pole in the meantime (or competes in less than 9 races this season) Grosjean could break the most races without a pole in Abu Dhabi.

[SpaceHorseParty]

Is Luca Badoer's record of most races without a single point still standing?

Yes. Besides that, all drivers scored points last year, and Kvyat has also done that before. So among active drivers, Giovinazzi is the leader with 2 races without a point.

[PlatenGlass]

Yes. Besides that, all drivers scored points last year, and Kvyat has also done that before. So among active drivers, Giovinazzi is the leader with 2 races without a point.

Well, with the number of races they have each season now, he could have Badoer's record by July!

[Victor]

Nice thread Dunc. Thanks

 

Isn't Kubica candidate to any record this year?

[noikeee]

Nice thread Dunc. Thanks

Isn't Kubica candidate to any record this year?

Most years gap between wins, perhaps?

Biggest gap between race participations belongs to Bruno Giacomelli IIRC. Not sure about race starts because I don't think Giacomelli was anywhere near actually starting a race with that Life pile of crap!

[Bleu]

Jan Lammers holds a record on time between two starts (10 years, 3 months, 22 days) while Luca Badoer had most GPs between starts with 167. 

 

Assuming Kubica starts Australian Grand Prix, he will slot fifth in interval (following Lammers, Badoer, Gene Force (Indy) and Pete Lovely) and third in GPs (following Badoer and Lammers).

 

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

Perez without a pole, Badoer without a point... Etc, etc. Those are not records but antirecords. And shoud be reffered to as antirecords, not records. Because it is ridiculous to achieve a record by avoiding to achieving something (points, poles etc..)

[Henri Greuter]

Perez without a pole, Badoer without a point... Etc, etc. Those are not records but antirecords. And shoud be reffered to as antirecords, not records. Because it is ridiculous to achieve a record by avoiding to achieving something (points, poles etc..)

 

In the case of Badoer,  His best race result ever is a 7th place (1993) so had there been points awarded that year for 7th and 8th  or 7th to 10th as in later years, then we were not at all mentioning him and compare him with current day and recent drivers that have not finished in a top 10 yet ......

[BiggestBuddyLazierFan]

In the case of Badoer, His best race result ever is a 7th place (1993) so had there been points awarded that year for 7th and 8th or 7th to 10th as in later years, then we were not at all mentioning him and compare him with current day and recent drivers that have not finished in a top 10 yet ......

How many of those good Badoer's finishes came in a high attrition hit race.

You know the kind of attrition that was so common in 90s

Oh wait!!! Badoer drove majority of his carrer in 90s

So 7th place in the 90s (if your car held) is worth the same as 12th place in 2018