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#1 Dhillon

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 17:50

Now that we can stream full races from f1 tv's historic race archive.

 

Which races would you like to watch and recommend ?

 

Mine would be, in no order

 

1996 Spain

2011 Canada

1998 Belgium

1996 Monaco

1994 Australia

2014 Bahrain



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#2 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 17:53

2012 German GP

Specially the part where Lewis Hamilton with much fresher tires couldn't overtake Fernando Alonso to unlap himself.

Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 25 January 2022 - 18:47.


#3 Silverstone96

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 18:17

So many to recommend!

1993 Japanese GP
1994 Japanese GP
1995 British GP
1996 Monaco GP
1997 European GP
1999 European GP
2003 British GP

That’s just a few

Edited by Silverstone96, 25 January 2022 - 22:16.


#4 EightGear

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 18:23

1999 French GP.

#5 Anderis

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 19:14

2010, 2011 and 2012 Chinese GPs were all super interesting each in it's own way from what I remember. The 2011 had like 5 drivers fighting for the race win on merit, I don't remember anything like that since I started watching F1.

 

Also 2007 Canadian GP, a really peculiar race. Alonso drove like he sat in that McLaren for the first time and got overtaken by Takuma Sato in Super Aguri. The other Super Aguri almost scored a podium if not for a collision with local fauna. Liuzzi blew a chance for his best ever GP finish and Wurz somehow ended up on a podium on an alternate strategy after getting knocked out in Q1 and not showing anything extraordinary in the race.

Hamilton's first win too.


Edited by Anderis, 25 January 2022 - 19:19.


#6 aportinga

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 19:18

1990 Mexico.

1988 Monza.



#7 Izzyeviel

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 19:39

every race from the mid 80's to '94 is worth watching. Not only do you get actual racing free from any gimmicks or safety car shenanigans, but real drama.

 

These were the days when it didn't matter when Senna & Prost zoomed off into the distance. They had to finish and in those days just finishing was an actual achievement.



#8 subh

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 19:56

Anything with commentary by Murray Walker.



#9 huggybear

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 20:01

1999 European GP is a great watch

Also, Monza and Spa from 1995

Brazil and Silverstone 2003

Hungary 1998 

Japan 2005

Brazil 2008

Brazil 2012



#10 aportinga

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 20:11

Anything with commentary by Murray Walker.

 

I think I am the only one who cannot stand his voice.

 

Sorry



#11 F1Frog

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 20:38

Canada 2011 was the greatest race of all time.



#12 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 20:40

Brazil 03

Spa 98

Australia 02

USA 05 (kind of serious with this one - not so much for the race itself but because of the interviews and politics being played out)

Brazil 08

Germany 00

Hungary 06



#13 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 20:57

Austria 1982

Switzerland 1982

Monaco 1983

Spain 1996

Hungary 1998

Monaco 1996

France 1979



#14 danmills

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 21:01

Canada 2011 was the gift that kept on giving. A proper afternoon of F1. 



#15 HighwayStar

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 21:17

A lot of the great races from the last 25 years or so have already been mentioned (Hungary 2006, Canada 2011 etc.) so I will mention a couple of favourite races that don't get talked about as often. I will try to avoid spoiling them for those who haven't seen them, but I can recommend the 2006 Australian GP (action packed all the way from the warm up lap through to the race finish) and the 2009 Brazilian GP (overshadowed by 2008 and 2012 but a great race in its own right). The 2008 German GP is another less celebrated race I remember enjoying a lot, particularly the second half.

 

I can second the recommendations of Europe 1999 and Japan 2005, I watched both of these races for the first time quite recently and were both tremendous viewing, including aspects that get overlooked in the mythology surrounding those races.


Edited by HighwayStar, 25 January 2022 - 21:19.


#16 Otaku

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 21:37

Weird no1 said Donington 93

 

What's the oldest race available, and how's the quality? Are they on par with the Japanese?



#17 Afterburner

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 21:46

Disappointed to see that they don’t have all the races from each season available. China 2006 stands out as a good one that hasn’t been mentioned yet. Japan 2007 and Korea 2010 are pretty crazy as well. I also remember Australia 2010 being pretty good too.

#18 Afterburner

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 21:51

Weird no1 said Donington 93

What's the oldest race available, and how's the quality? Are they on par with the Japanese?

The 1981 British and Las Vegas Grands Prix appear to be the oldest ones available.

#19 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 21:57

The 1981 British and Las Vegas Grands Prix appear to be the oldest ones available.

 

Naturally a classic track lie Las Vegas is there, it did have Giacomelli getting his one and only podium, so there is that.



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#20 Silverstone96

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 22:07

Canada 2011 was the greatest race of all time.

I actually beg to differ, overrated for me. Too many safety car periods for it to be considered a great race in the purest sense and some questionable moves on track by the winner.

Sure I’ll get piled in on now for this unpopular view!

Edited by Silverstone96, 25 January 2022 - 22:15.


#21 jonpollak

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 22:10

Try YouTube for the ones F1TV doesn't have.

 

I'll go with the races I attended starting with Monaco 1967 all the way up to USGP 2007

( Yep..haven't been to an F1 race since 07...MUST change that this year !! )

 

Jp



#22 lewislorenzo

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 22:18

Canada 2012, Monza 2018

#23 Alan Lewis

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Posted 25 January 2022 - 23:25

I posted on TNF earlier that today is the centenary of the birth of Raymond Baxter - the BBC's "Voice of Motor Racing" before Murray. So some of the excerpts of his commentaries on YouTube is the only choice for what remains of today.

One of those voices you can immediately hear in your mind even when your ears haven't actually heard it for decades.

#24 Misk

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 00:36

Disappointed to see that they don’t have all the races from each season available. China 2006 stands out as a good one that hasn’t been mentioned yet. Japan 2007 and Korea 2010 are pretty crazy as well. I also remember Australia 2010 being pretty good too.

Korea 2010 is one of my favourite races of all time. In terms of pure championship drama it had it all. 5 drivers still in the mix for the WDC. Webber spinning out of the first hot lap, Hamilton going wide and gifting second (and what ultimatley turned out to be the race win) to Alonso, Vettel's dramatic engine blow out that appeared to be the end of his title hopes. I watched it live with a friend and we couldn't believe what we were watching. It's up there with the 1999 European GP for pure drama that impacted massively on a tight championship battle.



#25 F1 Mike

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 00:56

Quite a lot of Monaco races on the 2000s we're good fun. I think 2005 and 2008 were eventful

#26 Dhillon

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 05:59

Weird no1 said Donington 93

What's the oldest race available, and how's the quality? Are they on par with the Japanese?


I think the full races are available from 1981 onwards.
I have only watched few races so far , quality seems fine to me.

#27 Aaaarrgghh

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 06:20

2007 European Grand Prix was great.

#28 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 06:48

For me there are a few magic ones that spring to mind, but the Australian GP 1986 really had a bit of everything. 

 

Unfortunately, it's difficult in hindsight to recreate the tension that the old races produced when watching them live. Generally, I'm quite content to watch anything from the past (in particular the 80's turbo era which was the sports golden age for me).



#29 george1981

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 07:05

Spa 2000 was good. It was the first race I ever attended in person, I have to say getting rained on all day and then spending longer trying to leave the circuit than the race length do tend to cloud my memories. But it was great to watch on the TV.


Edited by george1981, 26 January 2022 - 07:17.


#30 jimjimjeroo

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 08:11

Abu Dhabi 2021 :drunk:



#31 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 08:20

Mexico 1990 is a must watch before anything else.

#32 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 08:33

Mexico 1990 is a must watch before anything else.

 

Right, I've almost forgotten about this one, but it's a bit of a gem. (I'm assuming because I don't think I've actually rewatched it myself other than as a part of the 1990 Season review).



#33 Zoe

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 08:41

Everything from the Eighties and before, especially before.



#34 Dhillon

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 08:56

I think I am the only one who cannot stand his voice.

Sorry


I wasn’t very impressed listening to Murray for the first time after years of Steve Slater and co.
That high pitched voice and trying to create drama where wasn’t any.

Over the year grown quite fond of him and now any old race without Murray will seem incomplete.

#35 thefinalapex

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 09:27

Europe 2012😎 all the other more ‘famous races’ have been mentioned already.

#36 absinthedude

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 10:14

No idea if they're on the streaming service. I have my own personal archive.

 

1979 French GP

1981 Spanish GP

1985 Portugese GP

1986 Hungarian GP

1987 British GP

1982 Austrian GP

1986 Mexican GP

1990 Hungarian GP

1991 Brazilian GP

1985 San Marino GP

1981 British GP

1983 USGP (West)

1978 Monaco GP

1979 British GP

 

 

Those are some of my favourites, either because they were great races, or something unpredictable happened...some are also important from the point of view of Senna's first win, Renault's first finish with a turbo engine, Renaut turbo first win, First win for a carbon fibre chassis and so on.


Edited by absinthedude, 26 January 2022 - 10:19.


#37 Collombin

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:02

Detroit in 1984 and 1985 were fun, as was Dallas and the first Adelaide race. Re-watched them all to death until the tapes wore out.

#38 BerniesDad

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:02

Not quite in the same league as some of the others mentioned above, but I fondly remember Monaco 2004. Perhaps it was the least-boring race of a very dull year. And unusual that Monaco was the least predictable result of the year.



#39 Spillage

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:12

I started a thread on a similar topic during lockdown, looking for exciting races from the past that weren't so well known. I'd recomment having a look, we had some excellent contribtutions in there: https://forums.autos.../?hl= forgotten



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#40 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:22

Detroit in 1984 and 1985 were fun, as was Dallas and the first Adelaide race. Re-watched them all to death until the tapes wore out.

 

In general 1985 is a very underrated year (which I put down to Prost cruising to the title with a couple of races to go). Almost every race was good in isolation, the power balance between the teams switched back and forth across the season, the cars were gorgeous and the drivers were personalities both on and off the track. You had the fast but fragile Lotus/Williams teams. The slower but steady McLaren. The Ferrari that started the season so well but just dropped further and further back (with worsening reliability to boot). Piquet occasionally transcending the limits of his Brabham (and the Pirelli's). The rise of Senna and Mansell as a serious contenders. Rosberg in his last truly brilliant season. Lauda still on the grid...

 

I think I'll have to rewatch that entire season at some point.


Edited by Rediscoveryx, 26 January 2022 - 11:23.


#41 Collombin

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:35

You've reminded me of Zandvoort too, and a desperate Prost trying to get past Lauda. Great battle, and they managed not to hit each other.

#42 FortiFord

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:46

Belgium 95

Europe 95

Monaco 96

Spa 96

Argentina 97

Japan 97

Europe 97

Argentina 98

Canada 98

Italy 98

Europe 98

Canada 99

France 99

Europe 99

France 00

Belgium 00

Japan 00

Brazil 01

Malaysia 01

France 02

Australia 03

Britain 03

USA 03

Monaco 04

San Marino 05

Europe 05

Japan 05

Australia 06

Hungary 06

China 06

Europe 07

Japan 07

Germany 08

Belgium 08 (fast forward to the last few laps)

Brazil 08

Australia 09

Brazil 09

Australia 10

China 10

Canada 10

Belgium 10

Korea 10

China 11

Monaco 11

Germany 11

Malaysia 12

Canada 12

Europe 12

Brazil 12

Australia 13

GB 13

Canada 14

Hungary 14

Belgium 14

Hungary 15

Monaco 16

Malaysia 16

Azerbaijan 17

Singapore 17

Mexico 17

Azerbaijan 18

Germany 18

Italy 18

 

Won't bother with the last few years since they are so recent, but that should be enough to keep you busy! 



#43 absinthedude

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 11:50

100% agree with Europe 1995. 



#44 aportinga

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 16:47

Disappointed to see that they don’t have all the races from each season available. China 2006 stands out as a good one that hasn’t been mentioned yet. Japan 2007 and Korea 2010 are pretty crazy as well. I also remember Australia 2010 being pretty good too.

 

Agreed.

 

And the quality is seriously poor in some cases.



#45 aportinga

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 16:49

Mexico 1990 is a must watch before anything else.

 

Bob Varsha: "Outside in tha paraltada - you can't do that but Mansell just did!"



#46 aportinga

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 16:50

I wasn’t very impressed listening to Murray for the first time after years of Steve Slater and co.
That high pitched voice and trying to create drama where wasn’t any.

Over the year grown quite fond of him and now any old race without Murray will seem incomplete.

 

I've gone the other way... Geddy Lee, Jon Anderson... Just cannot stand it any longer.



#47 F1Johnny

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 17:01

Bob Varsha: "Outside in tha paraltada - you can't do that but Mansell just did!"

 

The build up to that pass was amazing.  Huge attachments on Mansell.



#48 Francesc

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 20:02

Lots of great races missing from the archive, and sadly they are not going to be uploaded.

#49 juicy sushi

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 20:14

Canada 2011 was the greatest race of all time.

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#50 juicy sushi

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Posted 26 January 2022 - 20:18

Everyone will give you an arbitrary date where the racing was better, but I was watching some old clips of British reporters trying to get the drivers to agree that the racing was nowhere near as good as it was back in the 50s, at the 1966 Mexican GP.  I think sampling the races from multiple decades/engine formulas might be worthwhile, but really, take your pick based on your curiousity.  The 80s, I think, featured a lot of great racing with some very different attitudes to what you'll experience today, and the 1970s as well can offer that as well.  I'd recommend avoiding almost everything from the grooved tire era, as the cars were just plain badly designed.