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#1 FLB

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Posted 09 December 2022 - 22:02

Well, as nobody seems to want to do one, here goes and it starts with a Duesie Model J (i.e. a full-time current F1 driver doing the Rolex 24) :

 

Kevin and Jan Magnussen teaming up for Rolex 24 with MDK Motorsports | RACER



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#2 paulb

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Posted 09 December 2022 - 22:11

Cool. KMag is another driver to look for at the Roar. Lars and I met Jan at the 24 in 2018.

And thanks for starting the topic FLB.

Edited by paulb, 09 December 2022 - 22:14.


#3 red stick

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 16:42

I'd thought we were going for something more comprehensive to take advantage of convergence and apply to the WEC as well--a Boratish "Sports Car 2023--Convergence for Make Benefit Glorious IMSA, WEC, etc."   :cool: 



#4 FLB

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 16:56

I'd thought we were going for something more comprehensive to take advantage of convergence and apply to the WEC as well--a Boratish "Sports Car 2023--Convergence for Make Benefit Glorious IMSA, WEC, etc."   :cool: 

Nobody was committing and we're three weeks from 2023, six from the actual Rolex 24. We've just had The-Roar-Before-The-Roar. We keep posting 2023 news in the 2020 regulations thread, because there's nowhere else.

 

There's convergence, but it's not ALMS/GARRA in 2014 nor CART/IRL in 2008. Some teams will do both, with different outfits (i..e a team located in the US and one in Europe), but it was like that already with Ganassi and the Ford GT. Some manufacturers are only doing one (BMW, Acura).

 

 

IMHO, it's two different championships. Both endurance, both with a similar ruleset... but not the same (EX: Still two races at Sebring).


Edited by FLB, 10 December 2022 - 17:04.


#5 red stick

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 17:00

Can't argue with the commitment part.

 

Carry on!!!



#6 red stick

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 17:00

Considerable fluff, but the excitement part is probably genuine.

 

https://racer.com/20...t-daytona-test/



#7 red stick

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 17:06

Eye candy.

 

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Pfaff going to the dark side next year (cookies rumored)?

 

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Edited by red stick, 10 December 2022 - 17:16.


#8 red stick

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 17:12

Also, one of the rumored Lego Speed Champions kit releases in March is a Porsche 963. 



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Posted 10 December 2022 - 17:28

I am so excited for this season of IMSA and WEC. Old guy mode; I've always been most partial to these cars (then World Sportscar Championship) of the '50s and '60s and grew up watching the 1960s ABC Le Mans coverage and have followed it closely through the ensuing years, but this should be the start of some amazing times to enjoy.



#10 red stick

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 17:57

I am so excited for this season of IMSA and WEC. Old guy mode; I've always been most partial to these cars (then World Sportscar Championship) of the '50s and '60s and grew up watching the 1960s ABC Le Mans coverage and have followed it closely through the ensuing years, but this should be the start of some amazing times to enjoy.

Agreed.
It will be interesting to see come January who has nailed the reliability issue. Having your first race be a 24 hour enduro certainly makes for a challenge!

Edited by red stick, 10 December 2022 - 19:14.


#11 FLB

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Posted 10 December 2022 - 17:59

Agreed.

It will interesting to see come January who has nailed the reliability issue.  Having your first race be a 24 hour enduro certainly makes for a challenge!

 

Is Kevin Buckler racing this year...?  :p  :lol:

 

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Posted 11 December 2022 - 01:27

Beg and you shall receive.

:clap:

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#13 jonpollak

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Posted 11 December 2022 - 01:28

https://www.airbnb.c...WVhYzZkMDdjNWEw

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#14 Afterburner

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Posted 11 December 2022 - 07:02

I am so excited for this season of IMSA and WEC. Old guy mode; I've always been most partial to these cars (then World Sportscar Championship) of the '50s and '60s and grew up watching the 1960s ABC Le Mans coverage and have followed it closely through the ensuing years, but this should be the start of some amazing times to enjoy.

Me too on the excitement. This is the most I’ve been anticipating an IMSA season in probably ten years.

#15 paulb

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Posted 11 December 2022 - 13:35

Me too on the excitement. This is the most I’ve been anticipating an IMSA season in probably ten years.

Let me know what day(s) you are going to the Roar. I want to see you guys again.



#16 jonpollak

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Posted 12 December 2022 - 13:21

We definately need a full on get together at Road Atlanta !!!!

If I can get Tracy, Lori and Keith to ressurect our campsite we are In Like Flint/Flynn or whoever the F is In Like.

 

Jp



#17 Dan333SP

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Posted 12 December 2022 - 15:31

With all of the GTP niggling electronic issues from the various tests so far and a field of only 9 top class cars, I think it's probably a reasonable bet that a well-run LMP2 car could win the 24 overall, given that they're only 2-3 seconds off the pace of the GTPs and the ORECA should be bulletproof. 



#18 jonpollak

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Posted 12 December 2022 - 21:33

Tower Motorsport with the BusBros®™ seem heavy favorites Dan.

 

Also...entries as of now..

 

Jp



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Posted 12 December 2022 - 22:28

Tower Motorsport with the BusBros®™ seem heavy favorites ..

 

I'd cream myself.



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#20 r4mses

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Posted 12 December 2022 - 23:13

I hate to admit, that BMW Hypercar looks good. Damnit.



#21 Secretariat

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 00:03

Is Kevin Buckler racing this year...?  :p  :lol:

 

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I am pretty excited for Daytona coming up. I was here on this day. A somber weekend but exciting given it was a new era.  New era in 2023, but hopefully all joyous!


Edited by Secretariat, 13 December 2022 - 00:05.


#22 FNG

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 00:35

I hate to admit, that BMW Hypercar looks good. Damnit.

 

It's not bad but I can't warm to these cars as long as those hideous shark fins are on there. Dear me they kill the look



#23 Dan333SP

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 00:54

Anyone have photoshops of finless GTPs? I remember seeing one of the Mazda when they rolled out the DPis and it was a stunner. Still bummed they didn’t commit to the new rules.

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 09:20



Anyone have photoshops of finless GTPs? I remember seeing one of the Mazda when they rolled out the DPis and it was a stunner. Still bummed they didn’t commit to the new rules.

 

With utmost apologies to the original photographer for massacring his excellent photograph, I have used my incredibly limited photoshop skills on the Caddy (Let me know if I need to delete this, I'm not sure if it's on)

 

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#25 Peat

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 13:57

I had totally missed the whole Braun to MSR annoucement. 

So happy he's finally getting a crack at the bigtime. Solid driver. 



#26 Dan333SP

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 14:18

I had totally missed the whole Braun to MSR annoucement. 

So happy he's finally getting a crack at the bigtime. Solid driver. 

 

Same. He's as good as any of the top IMSA prototype drivers for sure. Remember the pole in the outdated Nissan DPi at Mosport? Or the wins in the LMP2 ORECA despite having a true amateur codriver against full pro lineups? He's a stellar driver. 



#27 jonpollak

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 17:18

I had totally missed the whole Braun to MSR annoucement. 

So happy he's finally getting a crack at the bigtime. Solid driver. 

His agent William Wynne is a good friend.

He had been singing the guys praisess since back in the NASCAR Truck days.

 

SO glad to see him engineer this deal to get him in one of the best seats in the house this year.

:up:

 

Jp



#28 jonpollak

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Posted 13 December 2022 - 22:19

WEC thread is up.
Cuz we brothers in arms nao.

https://forums.autos...e-championship/

Jp


Edited by jonpollak, 14 December 2022 - 22:59.


#29 jonpollak

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Posted 14 December 2022 - 00:47

Jp



#30 paulb

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Posted 15 December 2022 - 01:13

So I have registered to be a Corner Marshal for Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday (the race!) for the Rolex 24 Hours. I’ll let you all know what transpires.



#31 jonpollak

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Posted 15 December 2022 - 08:01

Yeah baby !!!
pb on the spot again !!!!

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#32 FLB

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Posted 15 December 2022 - 17:24

UAE Ed (from IndyCar) bounces back in an interesting way:  https://en.endurance...try-2023-season



#33 ezequiel

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Posted 15 December 2022 - 21:04

Provisional entry list for Daytona



#34 FLB

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Posted 15 December 2022 - 21:35

Oversubscribed Rolex 24 entry to stand at 60 cars | RACER

 

 

Of those 60 entries accepted, 56 have committed to the complete, four-race IMSA Michelin Endurance Cup season, with 45 cars planned for full-season programs. 



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Posted 15 December 2022 - 23:33

Looking for a new daily driver?

#36 jonpollak

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Posted 16 December 2022 - 00:05

$175,000 ?...

 

My downforce solution for almost any car.

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Here's a random 24hr Daytona video for tonight.

 

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#37 Dan333SP

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Posted 18 December 2022 - 12:59

Anyone know anything about whether AXR will run a second car, presumably the #48 Ally car, in enduros this year? I think they’re getting two chassis from Cadillac and I know supply chain means they won’t have a second car available by Daytona, but I’d love to see a 3rd Cadillac later in the year. As exciting as the new era is, part of me worries that there just aren’t many customers expressing interest in these cars beyond the current teams in the coming years.

#38 FLB

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 00:39

NBC Sports reveals 2023 IMSA TV schedule | RACER



#39 jonpollak

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 02:35

Jp



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Posted 20 December 2022 - 09:54


With utmost apologies to the original photographer for massacring his excellent photograph, I have used my incredibly limited photoshop skills on the Caddy (Let me know if I need to delete this, I'm not sure if it's on)

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I wish they could just write a "no bodywork protruding from the rear of the engine cover" and teams would just abide with it, instead of looking for loopholes of any kind.

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 11:27

My downforce solution for almost any car.

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Nice, but what about the extra weight and its proper distribution?



#42 jonpollak

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 11:53

Think motorcycle side car passenger.
She moves her weight accordingly in each corner.

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#43 Dan333SP

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Posted 20 December 2022 - 15:34

I wish they could just write a "no bodywork protruding from the rear of the engine cover" and teams would just abide with it, instead of looking for loopholes of any kind.

 

Teams aren't running the big fins because it's a loophole, they are actually required to because it helps prevent blowovers at high angles of yaw. IIRC, the rules were changed in 2011 to require them on all prototypes, crashes like Ortelli at Monza in 2008 were the impetus and we've been stuck with them ever since.

 

Unlike the Halo, the fins aren't ever going to obviously save a driver's life, they maybe just sometimes prevent rollovers, so it's a bit harder to warm up to them. 



#44 paulb

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Posted 21 December 2022 - 00:13

IMSA adjacent, sort of, but The Amelia is also featuring LeMans Winners and Porsche Fiberglass Racing Spyders. I can’t miss those cars.



#45 red stick

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Posted 21 December 2022 - 14:46

Rahal feeling confident.

 

https://racer.com/20...for-whats-next/



#46 FLB

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Posted 21 December 2022 - 20:21

Dunno if it fits more in the IndyCar threar or here: Cassie sur Twitter : "Alright, let's get excited to watch our #IndyCar and #IndyNXT drivers at the #Rolex24 next month! Here's who to lookout for from the IndyCar paddock: https://t.co/TaAUC7H0lB" / Twitter



#47 paulb

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Posted 21 December 2022 - 23:30

Indycar adjacency is always welcome.



#48 red stick

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 15:57

Per the latest TWISC podcast, the betting is that an LMP2 will be the overall winner at Daytona.  Systems integration in the GTPs is the issue.  If the Energy Recovery System hiccups, the car doesn't run.  And fixes take a considerable amount of pit time--the easiest thing to fix would take about 30 minutes.  

 

Go Bus Bros!!!



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Posted 22 December 2022 - 16:01

Per MP, the Cadillac is the "easiest" to repair.  On the Acura, the joke is that the entire car was built around the MGU.  Literally.  The amount of items that must be removed to get to it is stunning.    ;)



#50 FLB

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Posted 22 December 2022 - 16:09

Per MP, the Cadillac is the "easiest" to repair.  On the Acura, the joke is that the entire car was built around the MGU.  Literally.  The amount of items that must be removed to get to it is stunning.    ;)

I've just listened to it. The floor on all the cars is apparently in two pieces for better access to the battery (the 30 minute thing to fix). And that's assuming the car doesn't brick itself and the driver can get into a failsafe mode to get it back to the pits.

 

 

In case of an MGU failure... Just retire the car on the spot. It'll be easier on everybody.