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#1 Risil

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:33

New thread! Carry on discussing the big and little technical details of the McLaren MCL34 here.



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#2 mclarensmps

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:53

Ooh, thread 2 for the irrelevant team! Nice! 



#3 Tiakumosan

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 22:55

Thread 2 before the first race?

#4 Muzzyf1

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:07

I was looking for a new driver to support after Fernando and i think I'll be behind FerLando Norris i like his style.

#5 Gary Davies

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:12

Ooh, thread 2 for the irrelevant team! Nice!

That’s right. So deeply, thoroughly irrelevant that part one had 4232 posts. Nice!

#6 Oblivion

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:23

Thread 2 before the first race?

 

That's the sign of potential...



#7 MirNyet

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:23

Ooh, thread 2 for the irrelevant team! Nice! 

 

Could just mean we're all chatterboxes :D



#8 Morgan111

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:25

That's the sign of potential...


Will it be unlocked though? 😉

Edited by Morgan111, 16 March 2019 - 23:26.


#9 mclarensmps

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:45

Looking at the speed trap differences between last year and this year, even though Sainz had some bad luck in qualifying, we will actually get a good idea of how racy the car is compared to the midfield whether it's defending or attacking. For the fans, it should be an interesting race. 



#10 smr

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:59

I am looking for new driver to follow since Jenson retired. Lando I think is the natural choice.

#11 MrRat

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 23:59

I am going to be working tonight. 7pm to 7am. I hope they haven't blocked F1tv (lol) on the network. I am gonna ruin my data otherwise lol. :drunk:



#12 slvraro

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 00:20

This is positive for the team, but certainly is interesting to see that Ferrari would not have claimed last year's pole with this year's car.  I was quite pleased to see how the car did...anything can happen in the race.

 

Source: redit/formula1

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#13 Matthew22

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 00:27

I'm happy for Lando and the team just to give them a confidence boost because they deserve it. But I'm more excited for what this car can do over the season. I think it's clear we are skinny on downforce, but for a rookie to be the one to deliver the lap above experienced people like ricciardo and Raikkonen speaks a lot about the car. If the team went conservative on the approach to downforce on this car to start the season, just to make sure that they had all the concepts right after last year, then good things will come to us in the later part of this year. But I also think for Bahrain and Baku, we will be competitive with this downforce level. We need upgrades to break free of the midfield from there, but as a starting point this is good. Were on the road to recovery finally!

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 01:23

This is positive for the team, but certainly is interesting to see that Ferrari would not have claimed last year's pole with this year's car.  I was quite pleased to see how the car did...anything can happen in the race.

 

Source: redit/formula1

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The hand-me down B-team effect in one simple chart - Sauber's design team have gained 2.2 seconds in their design while RB and Ferrari 0.6?

They would be getting poached as we speak...



#15 MistereX

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 02:59

Will it be unlocked though?

 

Where is Potential Unlocker when you need him/her/it?



#16 Eruobodo

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 02:59

The hand-me down B-team effect in one simple chart - Sauber's design team have gained 2.2 seconds in their design while RB and Ferrari 0.6?

They would be getting poached as we speak...

Exactly, Renault and McLaren need to team up, they need to start sharing designs and pooling resources, else, they will not break free, every year, they will be fighting the B teams.



#17 Quickshifter

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 04:03

Full radio Sainz

 



#18 Gary Davies

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 04:05

Exactly, Renault and McLaren need to team up, they need to start sharing designs and pooling resources, else, they will not break free, every year, they will be fighting the B teams.


I agree but what if Mercedes comes to the conclusion, over the next year or so, that their wonderful engine is terminally wasted in the back of a Williams? With Ronzo no longer a factor at Woking, don’t dismiss the idea out of hand.

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:11

Carlos starting on the softs. Interesting. Guess they hope to make up places on the first lap. Then pit into clear air fairly early to undercut?

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#20 DanardiF1

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:29

Damn!

#21 Topsu

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:29

Joke



#22 kumo7

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:30

serious



#23 McLobby

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:32

Unbelievable.... @%!$%... he was doing so well!!! damn!



#24 MrRat

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:33

well.



#25 DILLIGAF

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:34

Oh dear! MGUK failure!



#26 nosecone

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:35

At least we are first at anything again :)



#27 McLobby

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:49

A more experience driver would do a better job...surely... but  anyway welldone to the kid for fighting it out in his first race....


Edited by McLobby, 17 March 2019 - 05:49.


#28 keshav

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:55

That AR just messed up our race right.

#29 pacificquay

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:57

Yep, Giovinazzi cost Norris about 10 seconds

#30 ElDictatore

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:58

Yep, Giovinazzi cost Norris about 10 seconds

 

Which is 3 positions lost to Gasly, Kvyat and Stroll.



#31 superdelphinus

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:58

Just quoting a reply to me from the previous thread:

I’ve been watching f1 since about 1985, but not sure of the relevance. Mclaren fans never used to be so paranoid about the media or anyone else not liking the team etc etc. It’s only the last few years I’ve seen it come into this forum. Although, I suppose the autosport forum didn’t exist for most of the time I’ve been watching f1.

#32 loki0420

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:59

9th was on cards until that damn alfa romeo. I’m quite pissed. But Lando will soon gain enough confidence for more vicious attacks.

#33 Bleu

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:04

Everyone else managed to easily go past Giovinazzi but Norris got stuck. A problem with engine, aero or driver being too cautious?



#34 Oblivion

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:05

It's all about experience. So it's OK. Shame for Carlos though :(



#35 f1rules

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:06

Whats going on with this horrible pace

#36 propercare

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:12

Everyone else managed to easily go past Giovinazzi but Norris got stuck. A problem with engine, aero or driver being too cautious?


Not really, the moment Giovinazzi lost his tires Norris ovdrtook him followed by others. I see no reason Gio didn't pit earlier other then trolling the cars behind.

#37 McLobby

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:14

Not good racing pace... falling back at disturbing rate...



#38 pacificquay

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:14

Whats going on with this horrible pace


The gap to Raikkonen is remaining pretty constant, it’s just those in between in fresher tyres going a bit quicker

#39 MrRat

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:14

Abysmal race pace on hards. :down:



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#40 f1rules

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:19

Disaster racepace

#41 BertoC

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:24

Bah Im off to bed. Slowest midfield team, Marko was right. Kvyat looks like a Merc in comparison.

#42 ElDictatore

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:26

Everyone else managed to easily go past Giovinazzi but Norris got stuck. A problem with engine, aero or driver being too cautious?

 

They got past because GIO ran wide in Turn 13.

Regardless, racepace is quite bad. Might be also due to tyre management and traffic from blue flags but not very comforting.



#43 keshav

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:26

Norris is so slow. Horrible.



#44 benb53

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:26

Just unfortunate really, the Alfa destroyed our race. Sainz was looking decent, shame. We are in the midfield fight, and have positives to take away.

#45 propercare

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:26

Norris cooked the tires behind Giovinazzi. Car is very good.

#46 f1rules

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:28

Norris is 21 sec behind the group he was supposed to be fighting, horrible from him and the car

#47 loki0420

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:28

I don’t think he is pushing hard, more like engine saving because there’s nothing to fight for after Giovinazzi. I guess Perez is doing the same. If there was no alfa and he kept that 9th position he’ll stay up there, no doubt.

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:28

Yes it’s not as bad as it looks.

Inexperience too - Albon is in a similar boat

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:28

Wonder if they turned the PU down on Lando's car because of worries about the MGU-K (like on Carlos's). Or they're really low on fuel. Times certainly seemed to drop off once we got stuck in 12th.

 

Or some kinda trouble? Hopefully we get some clarity after the race.

 

Sigh...



#50 Oblivion

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 06:29

Norris cooked the tires behind Giovinazzi. Car is very good.

 

That's exactly my thought. But the team really screwed the strategy today - the early pit was a disaster.