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Poll: Tropic THUNDER! 🌈⚡[FE 18/19, Round 06: Sanya] (24 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you want to see in Sanya?

  1. A cleaner race day! (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  2. Clean races? Leave that for F1 (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  3. An actual Tropic Thunder (40% chance) (3 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  4. Looking forward to the new circuit (8 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  5. 6 races, 6 different race winners (11 votes [45.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.83%

  6. Big Boys back in the game (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 thegamer23

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 11:15

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FE Season 5 Threadhttps://forums.autos...-thread/page-24

Hong Kong's Race Threadhttps://forums.autos...th-race-/page-9

 

 

 

Tropic Thunder time! 

 

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Topic? Racing in the Tropics

Seriously, this location is Mind Blowing: after a grey-ish e-Prix in the streets of Hong Kong, Formula E Circus approaches the incredible Sanya Bay, the Tropics of South China
Sanya is a green city: compared to the rest of the country it's a shining gem, with the lowest CO2 emissions & with big plans for electric mobility. 

High temperatures (30 + degrees) , Sun & a few Tropical Thunders may affect the Formula E race day, in a brand new circuit with unique features. 

Who's ready for the battle of the Tropics?


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The Hong Kong controversy!

The Hong Kong e-Prix wasn't an easy ride for the Formula E drivers. 

Heavy rain in the morning washed away every bit of grip on the chinese tarmac, leaving drivers to struggle in Practice & Quali: starting grid was super mixed up, with title favourites starting from the back & outsiders taking their chances from the front.

 

 

This, plus the super tight Hong Kong layout led to some crashes, pile-ups & controversies in perfect FE Fashion!

Andrè Lotterer VS Sam Bird, a great battle for the lead ended up with a collision: the englishman of Virgin Racing tangled with the back of the German's Techeetah, leading to a puncture.

 

 

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Bird eventually won the e-Prix, but he was penalized afterwards, allowing Edoardo Mortara to take the first win in Venturi's History. 

Title favourites barely gained any vital point from Hong Kong, meaning that the championship battle is tighter than ever! 

 

 


 

 

 

TIGHT!!!!

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Sanya e-Prix Circuit, including a Bridge! 

 

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How to watch??

Ultimate guide (UK TIMES)


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#2 TheJammin

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 11:34

Sanya looks absolutely gorgeous, but I really want to see it look apocalyptic and suffer a tropical storm. I bet the Gen 2 cars and halo lights would look ridiculously awesome in heavy rain and spray conditions.

 

Though, that could end up in a day of red flags and eventual race cancellation, so I hope for a little bit of rain and a Wehrlein or Custard win.



#3 Vielleicht

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 11:39

I've found a digital fly through of the track on Eurosport's Spanish website:

https://video.eurosp...881/video.shtml

 

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#4 maximilian

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 11:53

Nice!  Looking forward to the new venue, a spectacular city... as well as Techeetah finally getting everything right again!



#5 Vielleicht

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 12:08

Shakedown should be about 07:45am UK time on Friday morning, I think?

 

Schedules lists it as 15:30 local and they usually start the broadcast 15 minutes in.



#6 thegamer23

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 12:12

I've found a digital fly through of the track on Eurosport's Spanish website:
https://video.eurosp...881/video.shtml

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MOST of it looks pretty good imho, apart for a few very tight turn entries.

Sector 1 looks like Riyadh's S1 with medium speed corners, than those super long straights.

An interesting mix!

#7 Ben1445

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 12:58

As usual, I will pass full judgement until we've seen cars on track. 

 

Looks like it could be decent enough though. Revising my comparison to a cross between Marrakesh and New York. Which could be both good and bad. 

 

I do think there's a little bit of push-me-pull-you typical of motorsports (ok, well, society) when it comes to track design. One one hand we complain about acres of run off at proper racing circuits meaning there's no challenge to no end and yet when there's a track here that really punishes any abuse of track limits it's 'a joke' that can't be taken seriously.There's a mythical sweet spot that will likely never be found because everyone has difference preferences. 

 

The track width looks to be around 10-12m in width all the way around. That's comparable to Montreal's Circuit Gills Villeneuve, where much of the back section is 9-10m and the start straight width is about 12m.



#8 thegamer23

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 14:35

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So many potential night races  :love:


Edited by thegamer23, 20 March 2019 - 14:35.


#9 RSRally

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 15:09

Liking the look of that track on the Eurosport site. Fast, wide and with a nice mix of slow and fast corners. Could potentially be one of the best tracks of the year but will reserve judgement until we see it for real.

Actually hope it isn't weather affected this weekend as would hate it if the action on a potentially good track was disrupted having just endured a messy HK e-prix.

#10 MattK9

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 15:34

The hairpin on the highway just over the bridge (turn 8) looks to be too tight. The hairpin at hong kong was a U around a dual carriageway and so is this hairpin.

 

Otherwise it looks like a very good track.



#11 Vielleicht

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 16:24

The hairpin on the highway just over the bridge (turn 8) looks to be too tight. The hairpin at hong kong was a U around a dual carriageway and so is this hairpin.

At least it's not Turn 1 this time, for this track that's Turn 10 which, somehow, reminds me of St Pete's transition form the airfield to the streets only with a 90 degree entry.



#12 thegamer23

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 17:09

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#13 BRG

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 17:09

This looks a half decent track layout, assuming it is wide enough to allow some racing.  The hairpin is of course stupidly tight, but that seems to be a FE technical regulation for some reason.

 

I hope to see Bird absolutely dominate the race, and then see what FE come up with in order to disqualify him after the finish.  Looking at the Race Director in a funny way, maybe, or being deliberately British in a public place. 


Edited by BRG, 20 March 2019 - 17:10.


#14 RSRally

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 17:13

At least it's not Turn 1 this time, for this track that's Turn 10...


That's an important distinction, most of the bumper car stuff in HK was on the first lap or two before the field had spread out. Hopefully by the time they reach that hairpin they'll be in some kind of order.

Still, i'd rather they didn't have such tight hairpins but I suppose they're restricted by the local road layouts somewhat.

#15 LateApex

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 17:17

Can't play that video in my country  :evil:  Track looks good though!  And now I've got this in my head:

 

Me?

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I'm a dude

Plays a dude

Disguised as another dude



#16 NorwegianRudo

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 17:39

According to Sims this is likely to be an energy conservation track, which probably means Audi and Di Grassi have to be favourites.

 

https://e-racing365....cted-for-sanya/



#17 Vielleicht

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:30

Looks like a relatively substantial temporary pit building

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#18 Vielleicht

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:32

T5 looking down towards T4

 

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#19 thegamer23

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 08:53

This place looks outstanding, next summer trip: Sanya  :lol: 

JEV & LOT re-creating BayWatch  :lol:

https://twitter.com/...550306223308808

 

Venturi having a good old team photo meanwhile

 

 

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#20 Ben1445

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 09:07

These from FE's Instagram Story: 
 
Turn 1 (not race turn 1) and pit-lane
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Turn 2 and pit exit towards turn 3 
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#21 thegamer23

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 10:19

Looks like this Gen 2 racing is a major step forward even from the spectator's point of view!  :up:  :up:

 

That "stadium" section looks bonkers



#22 thegamer23

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 10:23

Virually Live lap in Sanya

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Looks much better than i expected earlier this season, honestly!  :up:


Useful stuff

 

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Edited by thegamer23, 21 March 2019 - 10:35.


#23 Peat

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 10:39

Why would you want need to see the pitlane during the race?



#24 Peat

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 10:41

The right hander after the long straight looks interesting. Like Mexico turn 1, potential for a day ending shunt there. 



#25 Vielleicht

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 10:45

Why would you want need to see the pitlane during the race?


Good point actually for the current format. When I went to Berlin in S3 we saw the Mahindra pit-lane kerfuffle that cost them a win, so it used to be a positive. But all you’d see now is leaving pit-lane for each session? Maybe a repair, a penalty or two? It’s nice to have maybe but hardly crucial for the current racing.

#26 TheJammin

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 11:06

I was going to say Sanya seems a nice location to make a trip to for the race next year, but when I looked into it apparently the transportation/public transport hasn't caught up to the increased tourism demand yet, so I can imagine it might be a bit hectic or frustrating during the FE weekend. If anyone is there this year or hears anything, let us know, because I fancy a Sanya trip!



#27 Vielleicht

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:06

Sam Smith's Sanya Thursday Notebook
https://e-racing365....rsday-notebook/

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#28 Vielleicht

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 12:08

***Roger Penske has publicly congratulated Formula E for its emergence as a major championship in recent years during a recent Motor Sport magazine podcast.

 

***“Jay was one of the early adopters and I am seeing him grow that and he is very enthused with that,” said Penske. “I’m glad to see we have one car now and they are not jumping from car to car which I think makes a big difference. I’m quite excited to see it and I congratulate on where the series is going.”

 

Formula E is Roger Penske approved!

 

That makes me a little emotional :')


Edited by Vielleicht, 21 March 2019 - 12:08.


#29 Ben1445

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 13:55

Formula E is Roger Penske approved!

 

That makes me a little emotional :')

He was at the Miami race in Season 1 and was positive then as well. Might be in part because Jay has a team but I do feel he's genuine. Smart man.. 


Edited by Ben1445, 21 March 2019 - 16:29.


#30 Ben1445

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 16:34

Have to say having now watched the onboard lap properly I I think it is a pretty good layout all in all. 



#31 thegamer23

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 17:03

AH
There's Jaguar i-Pace this weekend also!  :smoking:  :smoking: 

Brian Sellers & Katherine Legge are super close in the points standings.

Live Sessions, March 23th

- QP After FE's FP1
- Race after FE's quali

 


Edited by thegamer23, 21 March 2019 - 17:37.


#32 thegamer23

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 22:51

Shakedown LIVE 



 

7.50 AM, tomorrow!
 


Edited by thegamer23, 21 March 2019 - 22:53.


#33 Vielleicht

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 07:49

I am awake and ready for Shakedown

 

Edit: Track time over now, some thoughts

- Turn 8, the hairpin, seems more open and with more run off than the digital track previews seemed to suggest.

- Turn 10 is indeed a bit like Turn 1 at Mexico but with walls.

- On the whole, pretty good. Wide, flowy, with some good overtaking opportunity. One or two pinch points that wouldn't be too hard to iron out on a return visit.


Edited by Vielleicht, 22 March 2019 - 08:10.


#34 Vielleicht

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 08:28

Preview:
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What we actually have:
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#35 thegamer23

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 08:47

Impressed by this track!! :up:

First Sector is technical but flowing, reminding me of Santiago's Sector 1. (Wich was great)

Than you have the long straights, wich will launch those cars at 230 + km/h & will allow overtaking at the hairpin (wich isn't super tight).

T10 looks way faster than expected, similar to Mexico's Turn 1.
May cause drama!

Can't wait for tonight :up: :up:

#36 Peat

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 09:13

Layout looks good. Backdrop is a bit disappointing considering the pictures upthread, but it's hardly going to be downtown given the disruption it would cause. 

The race is at a perfect UK time for me, looking forward to my morning coffFEe


Edited by Peat, 22 March 2019 - 09:14.


#37 TheJammin

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 09:44

Haven't seen any on track action yet but from what you folk are saying it sounds like the track is actually pretty good. Looking forward to tomorrow even more now.

 

21 hours and 17 minutes until lights out... yay!


Edited by TheJammin, 22 March 2019 - 09:45.


#38 RSRally

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 10:28

Track looks good but why do FE insist on having those kerbs that stick out into the track on the exit of corners? By narrowing the track it just increases the chance of accidents/track blockages and decreases the chance of overtaking IMO.

Got work tomorrow so can't stay up all night but will get up at 3am so i can watch FP1, FP2 and qualy before the race :)

#39 Vielleicht

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 10:37

Track looks good but why do FE insist on having those kerbs that stick out into the track on the exit of corners? By narrowing the track it just increases the chance of accidents/track blockages and decreases the chance of overtaking IMO.


Don’t really know, we first saw them at Tempelhof in Season 1 as a way to place down a solid kerb without causing any particular damage to the (in that case historic) surface and that quality seems to have allowed them to creep into most if not all of the venues. Maybe there’s also a cost saving element and/or in that it’s an FIA approved kerb unit it somehow streamlines paperwork?

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#40 thegamer23

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:16

Sam Smith's Friday notebook

https://e-racing365....riday-notebook/

 

 

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***The long-range weather forecast for the Haitang Bay area on the island of Hainan currently suggests some potential storm activity with a 30 percent chance of heavy showers on race day. In addition, localized winds could see a treacherous track surface due to the close proximity of beaches to the track.

 

***“Depending on the weather, we could see grip suffer due to sand blowing onto the track from the beach,” said Michelin’s Serge Grisin. “The forecasters are talking about 30°C (86°F) and heavy rain, but that doesn’t worry us unduly after the storms that marked Free Practice and qualifying in Hong Kong.”


Edited by thegamer23, 22 March 2019 - 12:18.


#41 TheJammin

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 13:37

If the weather stays as predicted, could be bad for Mahindra unless the Hong Kong issue was a one off. Sand and rain, hope we get some snow and volcanic ash too.



#42 thegamer23

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 16:03

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TONIGHT'S - MORNING SCHEDULE

 

23.30 - FP1

01.35 - FP2

03.20 - QP
04.45 - Jaguar I-Pace Race

7.00 - Sanya e-Prix

 

 

 

Think my strategy is going to be LIve FP1-2 + recorded Quali & live  e-Prix!


Edited by thegamer23, 22 March 2019 - 16:04.


#43 muramasa

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 17:19

 

I havent been following FE as well as Wehlein recently but oh jeez what has happened to our Pascal, he now looks like some sort of fashion leader :cool: :drunk:

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This is the Pascal I know, altho I know he was starting to transform in Sauber year....give us back our Pascal!  :evil: :D

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#44 Ben1445

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 20:31

Right, looking forward to this. May not be not he forum the whole time but rest assured I will be watching at least qualy and race. 



#45 Vielleicht

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 23:14

Checking in for FP1, unlikely to do the all nighter again myself as I have a busy day tomorrow.

 

Just noticed that no one so far has voted for 'a cleaner race day' in that poll yet!



#46 thegamer23

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 23:21

FP1 in 10 minutes!!

#47 Ben1445

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 23:44

I rate Rowland quite highly. As I understand it he’s wanted to be in FE for a while but his agency wanted to keep him focussed on F1. Then the Nissan door opened and he got his wish.

#48 Ben1445

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 23:47

I actually quite like the idea of some racing being more energy saving than others. That way the fast guys win some days, the efficient guys win on others, and the best all round stay up the top of the championships.

#49 beachdrifter

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 23:51

So is this track more overtaking friendly again?



#50 Ben1445

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 23:54

So is this track more overtaking friendly again?


Looks to be, di Grassi said he thought the racing would be good on the track walk