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[Phil Rainford]

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Originally posted by Alan Cox
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Two ace snappers at rest, British GP 1986. Autosport's one-time northern correspondent, Paul Boothroyd, explains to young upstart, Phil Rainford, all about f-stops and focal length
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Alan

Many thanks for that!!

I will get my own back .............. it might take some time but be afraid be very afraid ;)

Kind regards

Phil

[Andrew Kitson]

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Originally posted by alansart


My car, but not me. My brother in law, Andrew Whitehouse is driving. The top picture is a good one. we were trying to figure out if running an airbox made any difference. All it gave us was a misfire.

The Madgwick sticker on his visor comes from a Cadwell meeting when Antonio Albacate's helmet failed scrutineering and Antonio borrowed Andrew's helmet for his race. I have a piccy somewhere that I can post.

Alan, what year(s) did you race your PRS in those colours?

[Stephen W]

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Originally posted by Alan Cox
Has this combination appeared on here before? Ginger Marshall with his Reliant Kitten from 1987

Complete with Mr C in the foreground - or as we know him The Shadow!!!

[Simon Arron]

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Originally posted by Simon Arron

Tony Worswick limbers up for a future assault on the British F3000 series by monstering Paul Chadwick's Mini.

Originally posted by Phil Rainford
As if by magic... although Paul Chadwick's Mini seems to have disapperared

Have just found another shot of Worswick in full flight at Longridge...

Once again, there is a Mini lurking in the background (and also, in this case, the barriers). The driver, I believe, was Dave Price.


Warren Booth practised the Worswick technique later that day, but found it suited a Mk1 Escort better than an F2 Scott.

[Phil Rainford]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Simon Arron
Other than once threading a Jim Russell Van Diemen RF78 between plastic cones on the Hangar Straight, I had no circuit experience at all prior to clambering into Will's U2 at Snetterton.

As shown below:



Nice goggles!!




Would you mind explaining to the Forum this moment of high drama during your trip up and down the Hangar Straight?

Kind regads

Phil

[Simon Arron]

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Originally posted by Phil Rainford

Would you mind explaining to the Forum this moment of high drama during your trip up and down the Hangar Straight?

Very simple. Nowadays Silverstone has about 367 circuit permutations (if you include Stowe, South, National, International, Subterranean etc etc), but back then there were only two - Club and Grand Prix (and they overlapped). While Jim Russell pupils were trundling up and down the Hangar Straight, there was a general test session taking place on the Club circuit. Unfortunately, Neil Crang cocked up Becketts while testing his F/Atlantic Tiga (because of a technical problem, I believe) and decided to use the GP circuit as an escape road. It was only when he exited Chapel, and saw 17 Van Diemen RF78s travelling towards him at about 43mph, that he became aware of activities elsewhere.

[Alan Cox]

I posted these pics on the DSJ thread, but they might merit an outing here, too. Barrie Williams drove Ludovic Lindsay's "Turtle Drilling Special" oval racer at VSCC Silverstone 1991



It turns out, from the other thread, that Sam Hanks' role as driver was a figment of the signwriter's imagination as he had retired some years prior to the car's debut.

[Simon Arron]

From the sumptuous lines of the Turtle Drilling Special to the ample waist of a north-western classic...

This isn't a paragon of sharpness, but it provides a fair idea of the Roy Yates Zodiac's proportions (I have just uncovered a fresh pack of old photos and found this lurking within). The Zodiac was predominantly in its two-tone blue/white stripey phase at this juncture, but it looks as though the bonnet section is finished in primer. Either that or it remains its previously bright pink self...

[alansart]

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Originally posted by Andrew Kitson


Alan, what year(s) did you race your PRS in those colours?

Andrew. A brief history.

This is my first PRS that I got from Chris Reynalds. I knew him well so I also knew the cars history. It had it's roll hoop replaced after a disagreement with Philippe Lambert at Silverstone which put Chris in hospital. It also had the front third of the chassis replaced after Chris T boned Jon Bekuis at the bottom of Paddock Hill. I physically couldn't get in the car, as Chris was less than 5ft tall, and had to have special pedal extensions made!

This was the car with my arms painted on the side.


I met Andrew Whitehouse at Donington in 1982 and a year later married his sister! Initially we ran his car and mine side by side but it seemed logistically and financially better to just have one car between us so I sold my car to Arthur Atkinson and gave put the money into running Andrew's PRS. We did a complete rebuild which included an extra RP26 style roll hoop after witnessing Simon Frosdick flip his PRS at Mallory where he broke his neck when the roll hoop collapsed.


Our meagre sponsorship changed in about 1985 so the car then looked like this


The bodywork was getting a bit battered so I tried to be a bit arty with the Airbrush in about 1987. It didn't really work and I'm surprised Andrew even drove it!


Finally in about 1989 we decided to change it again. We rebuilt the car over the winter but didn't have time to get the bodywork resprayed. I drove it in the first race with it rubbed down which was fortunate as...........


The car was then returned to an earlier incarnation. Which is how it still is today.


History lesson over

[Phil Rainford]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by alansart
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I met Andrew Whitehouse at Donington in 1982 and a year later married his sister! Initially we ran his car and mine side by side but it seemed logistically and financially better to just have one car between us so I sold my car to Arthur Atkinson ......

Hopefully got it right this time and this is the car you sold to Arthur Atkinson?



While on the subject of PRS's two other supporters of the marque:

Peter Childe smoking his way through Lodge



Ian Slater being followed rather closely by Roger Eccleston



While this start shot shows how competitive the car could be, Wally Warwick leading Ian Slater while the cars behind attempt to look like the M6 on a Friday evening



Kind regards

Phil

[fines]

Ah, Cadwell Park! Where even humble FFords get airborne...

[alansart]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phil Rainford
[QUOTE]Originally posted by alansart
[B]


I met Andrew Whitehouse at Donington in 1982 and a year later married his sister! Initially we ran his car and mine side by side but it seemed logistically and financially better to just have one car between us so I sold my car to Arthur Atkinson ......

Hopefully got it right this time and this is the car you sold to Arthur Atkinson?



While on the subject of PRS's two other supporters of the marque:

Peter Childe smoking his way through Lodge



Ian Slater being followed rather closely by Roger Eccleston



While this start shot shows how competitive the car could be, Wally Warwick leading Ian Slater while the cars behind attempt to look like the M6 on a Friday evening



Kind regards

Phil [/QUOTE]

Yes. That's Art in my old car.

Peter Child - Good guy, with very little money. Ocassionaly he would use my spares to keep his going for the race and give them back afterwards - although more than once I was the cause of his damage in the first place.

You must have been standing next to Brendan!

[Johnny Lugnuts]

While we're on the topic of the PRS Formula Ford, here's a couple of shots of Davy Jones at Mosport in 1981 or '82:








And another showing Jones in second place during a round of the Walter Wolf Challenge, also at Mosport, 1982:




Race on, dudes!

[andrea]

I'm tired from these Formula Ford pictures. Can you post some F1 pictures here, especially from 1980s as this was the most interesting F1 decade? Formula Ford to Formula 1 is like compare Mini Cooper with Jaguar, so send F1 pictures, please!

[David McKinney]

The number of people posting and responding suggest there's plenty of interest in these pictures, Andrea
Nothing to stop you starting a new thread, perhaps called 'Personal 1980s F1 photos from the track'

[Stephen W]

If we are not careful we could end up with hundreds of "Personal Photos of ##### on the Track" threads. Rather than encourage multiple threads by year would it not be best to have threads for .......


F1, F2, F3, F5000, F3000, FAtlantic, FF1600, FF2000, Sports 2000, Sports Racers, GTs, Saloons and Club Racers.

This amounts to 13 threads and is probably far too many! :

[Andrew Kitson]

Or simply add a 'Personal photos from British Club Racing' thread. Lots of great Longridge pics of late which fit perfectly!

[Alan Cox]

Sounds like a good idea to me, Andrew - just to separate clubbies from international racing.

[Phil Rainford]

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Originally posted by andrea
I'm tired from these Formula Ford pictures. Can you post some F1 pictures here, especially from 1980s as this was the most interesting F1 decade? Formula Ford to Formula 1 is like compare Mini Cooper with Jaguar, so send F1 pictures, please!

Andrea

Just for you.....

Silverstone 1987:

Thierry Boutsen in the multi - coloured Benetton Ford would finish 7th three laps behind the winner



Allessandro Nannini would suufer engine failure after ten laps in his Minardi



While sideways team mate Adrain Campos would last some 34 laps



Ricardo Patrese's turbo failed after 28 laps



Philliipe Streiff's Tyrell retired 8 laps from the end of the 65 laps race



While Christian Danner retired on Lap 32 after hitting his head on the underneath of the Woodcote Bridge ;)



Kind regards

Phil

[alansart]

And a few more

Hockenheim 1986

Formula Ford anyone!


Andrea De Cesaris + Minardi


Prost + McLaren


A blurry Arnoux + Ligier


And a Williams taking a gentle drive through the woods

[Mallory Dan]

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Originally posted by Simon Arron
From the sumptuous lines of the Turtle Drilling Special to the ample waist of a north-western classic...

This isn't a paragon of sharpness, but it provides a fair idea of the Roy Yates Zodiac's proportions (I have just uncovered a fresh pack of old photos and found this lurking within). The Zodiac was predominantly in its two-tone blue/white stripey phase at this juncture, but it looks as though the bonnet section is finished in primer. Either that or it remains its previously bright pink self...

Interesting letterage down the side of the legend Simon, is it "Blue Jeans International Motor Racing" or similar. Where, internationally, did Roy take his beast?

[Andrew Kitson]

Mondello perhaps? He did venture as far as Snetterton with it. Bright pink with day-glo green wheels!

[EDWARD FITZGERALD]

Dont remember it at Mondello .

[Mallory Dan]

Llandow or Pembrey maybe, or Ingliston, Knockhill. Are these 'International'? Or perhaps he took it the odd DRM meeting, now that would have terrified the foreigners !!

[Twin Window]

I can't really explain this never mind qualify it, but something about that pic says Kirkistown to me...

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Originally posted by Andrew Kitson

Or simply add a 'Personal photos from British Club Racing' thread.

That's got legs.

[bradbury west]

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Originally posted by andrea
[B]I'm tired from these Formula Ford pictures. Can you post some F1 pictures here, especially from 1980s as this was the most interesting F1 decade? ]

I think this must really re-define "subjective viewpoint" . No offence meant, Andrea.
Cars, drivers and eras are all a matter of personal preference, and TNF is a broad church. We are fortunate that so many enthusiasts not only still hold their photographs, and in the case of historians their data/bases and factual accounts and libraries, but that they are also prepared to post such items in a public arena like this.
Ignore the stuff which does not please you, and rejoice in that which does. Many of us are especially delighted with the photo threads of 50s and 60s material from the US and Australia/NZ, plus the Pygmee posts, etc etc etc. They are a wonderful source of new knowledge, unless you are content to restrict yours to a very narrow era. Enjoy it all.
Roger Lund

[Simon Arron]

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Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Interesting letterage down the side of the legend Simon, is it "Blue Jeans International Motor Racing" or similar. Where, internationally, did Roy take his beast?

It does say Blue Jeans International Motor Racing, but I've no idea whether the Zodiac ever raced abroad (or, indeed, made it as far as Llandow).

It would have been interesting to see how many turns of lock it needed to cope with the Knockhill hairpin.

I don't recall seeing the car at Longridge, but then there were only 10 slots on the grid in the circuit's early days (later extended to 12) and the Zodiac would have occupied about six of them...

[Alan Cox]

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Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Interesting letterage down the side of the legend Simon,

Have you created a new word, Dan? Or is it common parlance down Rufford way?

[andrea]

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Originally posted by Phil Rainford


Andrea

Just for you.....

Silverstone 1987:

Thierry Boutsen in the multi - coloured Benetton Ford would finish 7th three laps behind the winner



Allessandro Nannini would suufer engine failure after ten laps in his Minardi



While sideways team mate Adrain Campos would last some 34 laps



Ricardo Patrese's turbo failed after 28 laps



Philliipe Streiff's Tyrell retired 8 laps from the end of the 65 laps race



While Christian Danner retired on Lap 32 after hitting his head on the underneath of the Woodcote Bridge ;)



Kind regards

Phil

Thanks Phil!

[andrea]

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Originally posted by alansart
And a few more

Hockenheim 1986

Formula Ford anyone!


Andrea De Cesaris + Minardi


Prost + McLaren


A blurry Arnoux + Ligier


And a Williams taking a gentle drive through the woods

Thanks alansart!

[Mallory Dan]

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Originally posted by Alan Cox

Have you created a new word, Dan? Or is it common parlance down Rufford way?

There's some v funny things down Rufford way, Alan...

[Stephen W]

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Originally posted by Mallory Dan


There's some v funny things down Rufford way, Alan...

Dan being one of them!

Any road up moving on ...................


Above: from the September F5000 round at Oulton Park, this is Kaye Griffiths in the BRP-Ford ahead of Terry Sanger in the P83 BRM-Ford. Just sneaking into view is Graham Eden's Chevron.

[TooTall]

Long Beach 1986. First turn, first lap of the Super Vee race. Anyone care to try and name the names?



Cheers,
Kurt O.

[fines]

#84 has to be Jeff Andretti, #30 is the Martini, so Didier Theys, #43 Steve Bren, now it gets difficult: #1 Ken Johnson, #5 Mike Groff, #98 Ted Prappas?

[malvi]

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Originally posted by fines
#84 has to be Jeff Andretti, #30 is the Martini, so Didier Theys, #43 Steve Bren, now it gets difficult: #1 Ken Johnson, #5 Mike Groff, #98 Ted Prappas?

#1 is Ross Cheever, everything else is correct. #44 is Davy Jones, red #28 behind him is Tommy Byrne,#75 is Dennis Vitolo. Also #7 Scott Atchison, #2 David Kudrave,#12 Fabrizio Barbazza,#8 Patrick Phinny, etc. #43 Bren won this race.

[iharos]

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Originally posted by Phil Rainford


Phil

sublime in any sense.

[Teapot]

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Originally posted by Johnny Lugnuts
While we're on the topic of the PRS Formula Ford, here's a couple of shots of Davy Jones at Mosport in 1981 or '82:








And another showing Jones in second place during a round of the Walter Wolf Challenge, also at Mosport, 1982:




Race on, dudes!

I love that Bandit design!

BTW..what's the car (no. 998) in the background of the last picture?

[Alan Cox]

Some Silverstone 6 Hours photos from 1978


The BMW Italia car of Giorgio Francia, and Dave Brodie's Capri, while Mike Franey's Porsche has hit trouble in the pits.


The Belgian BMW of Harald Grohs, and the winning Porsche of Mass/Ickx


Works BMW hero Ronnie Peterson, while Eddy Joosen's Belgian BMW has fallen foul of the Silverstone hares, shredding various parts of his nose splitter.

[Johnny Lugnuts]

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Originally posted by Teapot




BTW..what's the car (no. 998) in the background of the last picture?

That's John Scratch in the Canadian built Ferret Mk.IV. Alec Purdy, Fred Wilken, and driver Scratch were a potent force on the Ontario Formula Ford scene in the seventies and early eighties, scoring lots of wins and championships in what was, essentially, a home built car. They had plenty of competition, always racing against the latest offerings from the British chassis manufacturers, and there was never any shortage of really talented drivers.

Read more here: www.ferretindustries.ca/index.htm

Here's another photo, seen alongside Mike Mueller's Zink, again at Mosport, circa 1981:




Johnny

[Simon Arron]

July 12 1980. A group of four 19-year-olds leaves Cheshire at about 2.30am in LNA 143V - a terracotta Ford Fiesta 1.0L. Breakfast is taken at Scratchwood Services and we wend our way through central London, crossing Vauxhall Bridge before spearing slightly to the east and passing through what I now know to be New Cross and Lewisham. Next stop: Brands Hatch...


Alan Jones heads for the third of his five victories during the season.


Nelson Piquet: remember the days when F1 cars had visible race numbers and most drivers wore readily identifiable helmets?


The Osella FA1 wasn't the most elegant racing car, but it should be remembered for almost wiping out the svelte form of the Harrier jump jet parked on the Clearways infield.


We went to Brands in a 1.0 Fiesta. Datapost took a 1.6 for Richard Longman and a 1.3 (pictured) for Alan Curnow.


This is a fairly crap picture, but it has a certain curiosity value. It's not Win Percy (or, indeed, Hugo Tippett, who drove the third Pentax RX-7). Anybody care to identify the driver?

[glyn parham]

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This is a fairly crap picture, but it has a certain curiosity value. It's not Win Percy (or, indeed, Hugo Tippett, who drove the third Pentax RX-7). Anybody care to identify the driver?

John Morrison per chance?

Glyn

[Phil Rainford]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Simon Arron
[B]July 12 1980. A group of four 19-year-olds leaves Cheshire at about 2.30am in LNA 143V - a terracotta Ford Fiesta 1.0L. Breakfast is taken at Scratchwood Services and we wend our way through central London, crossing Vauxhall Bridge before spearing slightly to the east and passing through what I now know to be New Cross and Lewisham. Next stop: Brands Hatch...



The Osella FA1 wasn't the most elegant racing car, but it should be remembered for almost wiping out the svelte form of the Harrier jump jet parked on the Clearways infield.

While the Harrier certainly wiped out most of the hospitality units on South Bank!!;) A sight and a sound never to be forgotten



Rene Arnoux



Patrick Depailler tragically in what was to be his last Grand Prix



Kind Regards

Phil

[Simon Arron]

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Originally posted by glyn parham
John Morrison per chance?

Close. The three Mazdas were originally entered for Percy, Morrison and Tom Walkinshaw, but Morrison and TW were replaced by Hugo Tippett and..? Clue: he was reasonably well known in contemporary single-seater racing.

[Andrew Kitson]

Ah...I remember ( I think!) Was it Phil Bullman?

[Maldwyn]

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Originally posted by Phil Rainford
While Christian Danner retired on Lap 32 after hitting his head on the underneath of the Woodcote Bridge ;)

[Simon Arron]

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Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Ah...I remember ( I think!) Was it Phil Bullman?

Here endeth the quiz. I'd completely forgotten about this little cameo until last night. I was supposed to be writing some nonsense about the 1991 Canadian GP, but my concentration began to lapse and I started poring through a few old programmes instead. As you do.

[Roberto Manzolla]

Phil Rainford
alansart
Simon Arron

Thanks a lot.
Those pictures are terrific.
Go on Men !

[Phil Rainford]

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Originally posted by Simon Arron

Here endeth the quiz. I'd completely forgotten about this little cameo until last night. I was supposed to be writing some nonsense about the 1991 Canadian GP, but my concentration began to lapse and I started poring through a few old programmes instead. As you do.

Not quite!!

Does anyone know the driver of the Renault 5 following Sterling Moss in the Audi from the same meeting?



I have it labelled as driven by a three times Australian Grand Prix World Champion

Kind regards

Phil

[ian senior]

The man following Sterling Moss must be Jack Grabham.

[Andrew Kitson]

Yes Jack did do that race in that Renault, didn't the organisers try to attract some drivers from Stirling's era to boost spectator appeal? I also remember seeing Colin Hawker in a 1.3 Fiesta in this race - a bit of a come down from his Super saloon DFVW a few years earlier!